ronhira
07-21 10:28 PM
mike – what about some of the corporation r not american corp.
donna – it doesn’t matter. ha ha
mike – indian corporation is hiring indians,
donna – that’s right, but doesn’t matter where they come from, we have to tell that they r taking away from
what will happen is that they will cease to exist. tata has not applied for 1 h1b.
kevin – they get people on company2company transfer
donna – because durbin bill hit the nerve, that essentially, h1b is dead in water, now l1 is being scrutinized by uscis, so actually, these cos have to hire locally
we have to laying down tracks for – that the bypass of us citizens and gc holder creates the culture of exploitation – this is our version of best & brightest.
if you look at our opposition – best & brightest, remain competitive, so this is, i think we have really strong chance to stay on message. democrats are articulate but can’t stay on the message, but we can. i meant it people.
btw, compete america, gave up on job posting for 30 days from durbin bill. durbin bill not allow h1b on client site, so have to place americans on 3rd party cites, and 30 days to post a job on dol site for us. it’s the academic arena will choke, and there will be so many jobs for us in academic arena.
kevin –schumer idiot thinks rich people wall street but we in it cannot make more than 40,000.
barbara – someone will say 30 days – that will stop our mission critical project
donna – no it won’t happen compete america, gave up on job posting for 30 days, because we were able to fight back, and we r in a strong position. we have to push for our agenda to strengthen our position.
kevin – on durbin bill, who will testify in the committee hearing
donna – nobody knows
kevin – the message is fragmented, donna the first one to say, get on to the message
donna – the players and politicos, who will talk about this, there is a big group who called me last week,
barbara – yes, we r fertilizing the soil.
donna - there is a republican who wrote this book – who said – its not what we say its what they hear. when we say after labor day – we are fighting for our right to compete for the jobs – the unions around the country will go wow, say anything that we have to defeat them.
kevin – we put this on internet it will stay forever and people will see it.
donna – someone in dean campaign, is interested in helping us
kevin – we have to get sound bites on the news, mostly its ron hira or kim berry
mike – one can
donna – a large organization will put me in 1 of the hearing. let’s guarantee that, by showing our level of sophistication. so target h1b only wants ads, companies are recruiting abroad for american jobs.
have to checkout now, have to head out, thanks everyone, bye guys.
if we play our cards right, we maybe able to get our contingent for the hearing. well great, i’ll do it next september.
alright bye bye.
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waste of my 1 hour, will not my time ever on these losers, now i know why they can't keep the job that they have, and why they can't find a new job.....
donna – it doesn’t matter. ha ha
mike – indian corporation is hiring indians,
donna – that’s right, but doesn’t matter where they come from, we have to tell that they r taking away from
what will happen is that they will cease to exist. tata has not applied for 1 h1b.
kevin – they get people on company2company transfer
donna – because durbin bill hit the nerve, that essentially, h1b is dead in water, now l1 is being scrutinized by uscis, so actually, these cos have to hire locally
we have to laying down tracks for – that the bypass of us citizens and gc holder creates the culture of exploitation – this is our version of best & brightest.
if you look at our opposition – best & brightest, remain competitive, so this is, i think we have really strong chance to stay on message. democrats are articulate but can’t stay on the message, but we can. i meant it people.
btw, compete america, gave up on job posting for 30 days from durbin bill. durbin bill not allow h1b on client site, so have to place americans on 3rd party cites, and 30 days to post a job on dol site for us. it’s the academic arena will choke, and there will be so many jobs for us in academic arena.
kevin –schumer idiot thinks rich people wall street but we in it cannot make more than 40,000.
barbara – someone will say 30 days – that will stop our mission critical project
donna – no it won’t happen compete america, gave up on job posting for 30 days, because we were able to fight back, and we r in a strong position. we have to push for our agenda to strengthen our position.
kevin – on durbin bill, who will testify in the committee hearing
donna – nobody knows
kevin – the message is fragmented, donna the first one to say, get on to the message
donna – the players and politicos, who will talk about this, there is a big group who called me last week,
barbara – yes, we r fertilizing the soil.
donna - there is a republican who wrote this book – who said – its not what we say its what they hear. when we say after labor day – we are fighting for our right to compete for the jobs – the unions around the country will go wow, say anything that we have to defeat them.
kevin – we put this on internet it will stay forever and people will see it.
donna – someone in dean campaign, is interested in helping us
kevin – we have to get sound bites on the news, mostly its ron hira or kim berry
mike – one can
donna – a large organization will put me in 1 of the hearing. let’s guarantee that, by showing our level of sophistication. so target h1b only wants ads, companies are recruiting abroad for american jobs.
have to checkout now, have to head out, thanks everyone, bye guys.
if we play our cards right, we maybe able to get our contingent for the hearing. well great, i’ll do it next september.
alright bye bye.
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waste of my 1 hour, will not my time ever on these losers, now i know why they can't keep the job that they have, and why they can't find a new job.....
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sanju
10-21 10:14 PM
suresh.emails,
I said in my earlier post that I will think about it. This is what I have to say.
There are things that can be measured in single dimension say on x-axis. Say you have to buy a car and you have to ask yourself a question – which car do I like to buy? Say you like Honda as compared to other cars. Your likeability of Honda or such cars could be measured on the positive side of the x-axis and likewise, if you don’t like some car, that can be measured on the negative side on the x-axis. Now, there could be another dimension to the situation, say, what is the car model in question, if it is a civic or maybe accord, accord, CRV, Odyssey, Element or whatever. Now if you ask yourself that question again – which car do I like? This time you need two dimensions to answer the question which Honda model you like and which you don’t like. Foe the sake of clarity you can do this on the X&Y-axis. But say if there is a choice of multiple colors. You would have to now think/plot a 3-dimention model, say a cube, because you may like a model of Honda in one color but you may not like the same color in another model. Now there could be other combinations, say which year make or whether it is a sedan/coupe or the cost factor or resale value, mileage, new/old, dealership, goodies, experience of your friends/well-wishers etc. etc. etc. So there could be multiple dimensions analysis to answer a 7 word question - which car do I like to buy?
The reason I say this is, even situations which otherwise seem simple require multiple dimensions of analysis. And there could be many more dimensions that we do not know or we do not understand. But say, you ignore all dimensions to every situation, and judge every situation in a single dimension analysis - whether or not you like something or not? If you don’t like it, that something has to be wrong. If you like it, that something is right. It can be easily identified on the x-axis. Simple, isn’t it. Life would be so much easier; it would be so much fun.
But here is the problem. With single dimension analysis of every situation, we will all be wrong most of the time. Since our childhood, maybe that’s why we were sent to school to get educated so that we could gain the knowledge & wisdom which could help us to apply more than one dimension to every situation and we could gain the ability to evaluate and analyze things around us “intelligently” – in multi-dimension.
Your single dimension analysis of -ve comments situation is, you don't like them and that's why the entire system HAS to be wrong. You see what I am saying.
It’s ok to express in the any forum and if you don’t like a forum, as in this case you don’t like reputation system, you have the choice to totally ignore it and not look at it at all. But you chose to look at the reputation system maybe because you continue to be mindful of your reputation on the anonymous forum, but then you continue to complain about the existense of the red dot system. It’s the choice you make. And then you apply single dimension analysis – if you don’t like a comment, there is something wrong with the guy who posted a negative comment and the reputation system and the IV and everyone around us. And because you are not happy, you think it is ok to curse everyone saying that the entire immigration system cannot be fixed because IV has reputation system. You know, I have to tell you, you are pretty good.
The reason I say all this is, I have fundamental difference with the folks who do not like reputation system but continue to look at it and complain about it, even when they have the choice not to look at the reputation system. The problem doesn’t end there. Every week there is someone complaining about the reputations left for that guy, and I just have an intellectual disagreement with that behavior. And I do not have anything against you or anyone else, I am sure you are a good man with a kind heart.
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I said in my earlier post that I will think about it. This is what I have to say.
There are things that can be measured in single dimension say on x-axis. Say you have to buy a car and you have to ask yourself a question – which car do I like to buy? Say you like Honda as compared to other cars. Your likeability of Honda or such cars could be measured on the positive side of the x-axis and likewise, if you don’t like some car, that can be measured on the negative side on the x-axis. Now, there could be another dimension to the situation, say, what is the car model in question, if it is a civic or maybe accord, accord, CRV, Odyssey, Element or whatever. Now if you ask yourself that question again – which car do I like? This time you need two dimensions to answer the question which Honda model you like and which you don’t like. Foe the sake of clarity you can do this on the X&Y-axis. But say if there is a choice of multiple colors. You would have to now think/plot a 3-dimention model, say a cube, because you may like a model of Honda in one color but you may not like the same color in another model. Now there could be other combinations, say which year make or whether it is a sedan/coupe or the cost factor or resale value, mileage, new/old, dealership, goodies, experience of your friends/well-wishers etc. etc. etc. So there could be multiple dimensions analysis to answer a 7 word question - which car do I like to buy?
The reason I say this is, even situations which otherwise seem simple require multiple dimensions of analysis. And there could be many more dimensions that we do not know or we do not understand. But say, you ignore all dimensions to every situation, and judge every situation in a single dimension analysis - whether or not you like something or not? If you don’t like it, that something has to be wrong. If you like it, that something is right. It can be easily identified on the x-axis. Simple, isn’t it. Life would be so much easier; it would be so much fun.
But here is the problem. With single dimension analysis of every situation, we will all be wrong most of the time. Since our childhood, maybe that’s why we were sent to school to get educated so that we could gain the knowledge & wisdom which could help us to apply more than one dimension to every situation and we could gain the ability to evaluate and analyze things around us “intelligently” – in multi-dimension.
Your single dimension analysis of -ve comments situation is, you don't like them and that's why the entire system HAS to be wrong. You see what I am saying.
It’s ok to express in the any forum and if you don’t like a forum, as in this case you don’t like reputation system, you have the choice to totally ignore it and not look at it at all. But you chose to look at the reputation system maybe because you continue to be mindful of your reputation on the anonymous forum, but then you continue to complain about the existense of the red dot system. It’s the choice you make. And then you apply single dimension analysis – if you don’t like a comment, there is something wrong with the guy who posted a negative comment and the reputation system and the IV and everyone around us. And because you are not happy, you think it is ok to curse everyone saying that the entire immigration system cannot be fixed because IV has reputation system. You know, I have to tell you, you are pretty good.
The reason I say all this is, I have fundamental difference with the folks who do not like reputation system but continue to look at it and complain about it, even when they have the choice not to look at the reputation system. The problem doesn’t end there. Every week there is someone complaining about the reputations left for that guy, and I just have an intellectual disagreement with that behavior. And I do not have anything against you or anyone else, I am sure you are a good man with a kind heart.
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chanukya
06-03 05:39 PM
Let's make it to Rank 2 or 3 in Batlle Royale.
spread the word ....outside IV also....
spread the word ....outside IV also....
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vikki76
07-02 05:11 PM
Other fees were taken care by Company
Medical : $500 (for 2)
Photos: $75
Photocopy/Scan/Color Print : $50
Fed Ex: $45
Calls to India to get documentation: $30
Total=$500+$75+ $45+ $30
=$650
I am now using this opportunity (retrogression) to get my 3 yr H1-B extension through premium processing. Who knows when they stop this again?
Medical : $500 (for 2)
Photos: $75
Photocopy/Scan/Color Print : $50
Fed Ex: $45
Calls to India to get documentation: $30
Total=$500+$75+ $45+ $30
=$650
I am now using this opportunity (retrogression) to get my 3 yr H1-B extension through premium processing. Who knows when they stop this again?
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doggy
07-22 12:29 PM
u know what i think, doggy, doggystyle and devils_advocate are all the same person, or they are anti-immigrants who are teaming up. admin may want to look at them closely... i would.... others can keep an eye on these guys too....
RonHira,
I understand your cocern. However, do you really think an Anti will come to this board and post information about their conference HERE?
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Now, no Anti can come up with THAT, can they? ;-)
-Doggy
RonHira,
I understand your cocern. However, do you really think an Anti will come to this board and post information about their conference HERE?
************************************************** ********
Now, no Anti can come up with THAT, can they? ;-)
-Doggy
kghoshal
12-21 11:47 PM
Indeed it was great Christmas new. At last.
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Googler
02-21 01:26 PM
So now they want to revise that Q&A! ;)
See http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=24696
"February 21, 2008
USCIS HQ has informed AILA Liaison that the February 19, 2008
Questions and Answers on its FBI name check policy have been
withdrawn from the USCIS website for revision. An update of the Q
& As is expected within a few days."
Can't wait to see what dodgy language they cut out and what even more dodgy language they introduce.
See http://www.aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=24696
"February 21, 2008
USCIS HQ has informed AILA Liaison that the February 19, 2008
Questions and Answers on its FBI name check policy have been
withdrawn from the USCIS website for revision. An update of the Q
& As is expected within a few days."
Can't wait to see what dodgy language they cut out and what even more dodgy language they introduce.
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Pandi
11-25 09:16 PM
Thanks to the IV Team for spending their time and effort in making this analysis :)
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GCOP
04-22 04:12 PM
I just wrote to the President on the link
http://www.whitehouse.gov/Contact/
I will also write to the Member of Congress and Senators of my State.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/Contact/
I will also write to the Member of Congress and Senators of my State.
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Kitiara
02-10 09:36 AM
Maybe we ought to declare a tie between the two of you? :)
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hopefull
07-06 04:13 PM
http://digg.com/politics/Green_card_hopefuls_to_resort_to_Gandhigiri_in_US
22 diggs already. 500 diggs will make it a top story!
LITERALLY BEGGING FORYOUR GCs.
THEY ARE KICKING US OUT AFTER USING US YET WE PROCLAIM OUR SELVES TO BE LOYAL TO AMERICANS...
NOT ONE HAVE I SEEN WITH SELF RESPECT WHO WOULD SAY ...WE SHOULD WORK TOWARDS BUILDING INDIA SO THAT THE FUTURE GENERATIONS WONT HAVE TO KISS THE WHITE ARCE...
SHORTCUTS ...huh ...??
DISGUSTING
22 diggs already. 500 diggs will make it a top story!
LITERALLY BEGGING FORYOUR GCs.
THEY ARE KICKING US OUT AFTER USING US YET WE PROCLAIM OUR SELVES TO BE LOYAL TO AMERICANS...
NOT ONE HAVE I SEEN WITH SELF RESPECT WHO WOULD SAY ...WE SHOULD WORK TOWARDS BUILDING INDIA SO THAT THE FUTURE GENERATIONS WONT HAVE TO KISS THE WHITE ARCE...
SHORTCUTS ...huh ...??
DISGUSTING
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tnite
11-07 01:29 PM
Surprisingly today I got second LUD on AP. Content is changed as under.
Receipt Number: LIN****
Application Type: I131, APPLICATION FOR USCIS TRAVEL DOCUMENT
Current Status: Document mailed to applicant.
On November 7, 2007 we mailed the document to the address we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service
I received my AP on Nov 3 and looking at the AP doc it had an approval date of Oct 10 whereas I had "Document mailed to applicant" message on Oct 31.
I am not sure what happened between Oct 10 and Oct 31st.
Receipt Number: LIN****
Application Type: I131, APPLICATION FOR USCIS TRAVEL DOCUMENT
Current Status: Document mailed to applicant.
On November 7, 2007 we mailed the document to the address we have on file. You should receive the new document within 30 days. If you do not, or if you move before you get it, call customer service
I received my AP on Nov 3 and looking at the AP doc it had an approval date of Oct 10 whereas I had "Document mailed to applicant" message on Oct 31.
I am not sure what happened between Oct 10 and Oct 31st.
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ursosweet
07-19 01:58 PM
my sincere advice to you, being a physician myself.
TB test needs min of 48 hrs to be read and if positive, you HAVE to do a chest x-ray. the immunizations are ok.
get her here on the next flight and get the medical done nxt week.
i had my medical on june 26 and i had to literaaly storm the office of the doctor to get my report done, and i mailed to my attorney......oh i can never forget that day!! it was a race against time. and am glad its over.
good luk
TB test needs min of 48 hrs to be read and if positive, you HAVE to do a chest x-ray. the immunizations are ok.
get her here on the next flight and get the medical done nxt week.
i had my medical on june 26 and i had to literaaly storm the office of the doctor to get my report done, and i mailed to my attorney......oh i can never forget that day!! it was a race against time. and am glad its over.
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anadimisra
11-17 07:12 AM
Thanks for applying and for the quick reply. Your skill set and experienced matched what we are looking for, and you passed the prescreening with perfect scores, except we can not hire anybody that requires sponsorship at this time. If you applied with a mistake on that prescreening question, please change the answer on the prescreening questions. Thank you and good luck!
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prashant1_sharma
12-01 12:01 AM
Send you a PM also.
Can you please send it to me also
Can you please send it to me also
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shana04
02-13 10:14 AM
Shana,
Were you on H1 Extension when you transferrred your H1?.
Thanks,
I was on 5th year
Were you on H1 Extension when you transferrred your H1?.
Thanks,
I was on 5th year
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reddymjm
05-13 04:00 PM
I suggest you wait and see if you can reconcile your differences......Marriage is a life long commitment. Remember we fall in love and we work on our marriages. Try reading the book called "5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman....It is an excellent book for couples who are on the verge of breaking or even for couples who want to enhance their married life.
Sorry I do not have any advice for you, except that you try to get back together....which will help you avoid refiling 485 or refiling Labor......The choice is yours!!!
I Second this.
Sorry I do not have any advice for you, except that you try to get back together....which will help you avoid refiling 485 or refiling Labor......The choice is yours!!!
I Second this.
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yabadaba
05-22 03:43 PM
Well they will easily find out from your SSN number if one is on payroll or not. I am seriously looking into this matter of getting illegal and many of my friends agree. Once the bill passes in its current form we should get advise from a good lawyer to convert status from legal to illegal. It sounds so insane when I say changing for legal to illegal..but that is the hit thing these days.
thats why i ll be illegal right? not on the books....1500 is a steal compared to the amount u d pay the uscis for filling fees etc. keep renewing the z visa indefinately.
thats why i ll be illegal right? not on the books....1500 is a steal compared to the amount u d pay the uscis for filling fees etc. keep renewing the z visa indefinately.
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rajakannan
06-27 08:31 AM
You seem to have got your case approved and you have filed your wife's I485, correct me if I am wrong.
What do you say to people who have been waiting from 2002 and 2003 and 2004, as of today there is no difference for person who got labor approved in May 2007 and case with priority date May 2003. For lot of them it has been a frustrating and stressful period, mainly because their spouses have been idle.
How on earth can you come with this idea, see the traffic on this site now, when core IV team was fighting for the retrogression and other benefits for our cause, there were very few. The world is selfish buddy. I wish you good luck on this idea.
yes i got my case approved .. i was in the same stage for my wife's case last month.if people are just satisfied in just sending the applications on jul 1st without worrying about the application getting accepted .. be my guest ... please rush and apply.
What do you say to people who have been waiting from 2002 and 2003 and 2004, as of today there is no difference for person who got labor approved in May 2007 and case with priority date May 2003. For lot of them it has been a frustrating and stressful period, mainly because their spouses have been idle.
How on earth can you come with this idea, see the traffic on this site now, when core IV team was fighting for the retrogression and other benefits for our cause, there were very few. The world is selfish buddy. I wish you good luck on this idea.
yes i got my case approved .. i was in the same stage for my wife's case last month.if people are just satisfied in just sending the applications on jul 1st without worrying about the application getting accepted .. be my guest ... please rush and apply.
shivapb80
06-05 10:01 AM
actually that is not what i understand...though we should wait for
1. some lawyer to come up with clarifications.
2. updates to the adjudicator field manual.
i think this still upholds the memorandum with regards to porting off on unapproved i-140. if you notice the case they have cited "Matter of Al Wazzan" is date Oct, 2005 where as the favourable Yates memo came out in Dec 2005.
what i understand is that they are just reiterating that porting off on unapproved i-140 is not automatic and requires that the adjudicator decide on the pending i-140 first before deciding wether the porting off is protected under AC21 or not.
but again...i myself am waiting for clarifications from immigration law websites like murthy.com and immigration-law.com etc.
1. some lawyer to come up with clarifications.
2. updates to the adjudicator field manual.
i think this still upholds the memorandum with regards to porting off on unapproved i-140. if you notice the case they have cited "Matter of Al Wazzan" is date Oct, 2005 where as the favourable Yates memo came out in Dec 2005.
what i understand is that they are just reiterating that porting off on unapproved i-140 is not automatic and requires that the adjudicator decide on the pending i-140 first before deciding wether the porting off is protected under AC21 or not.
but again...i myself am waiting for clarifications from immigration law websites like murthy.com and immigration-law.com etc.
logiclife
05-22 04:42 PM
Seems like everyone losing hope including core - as someone else said above its really sad to see this. Please dont lose hope at this critical moment else all of our efforts for last two years will go waste.
I cant imagine how much time/effort has been put into this effort by core members (as a relatively inactive member I myself could have easily spent several hundred hours on these forums in last year and half; and atleast some time in calling/faxing etc.). After all these efforts and seeing the current bill its understandable to get deeply disappointed. But dont lose hope yet. Its not over.
Logiclife - coming this from you really shook me. At one point you were so confident that having our measures in any future CIR is but gauranteed - we thought its just a matter of time. All of us were also thinking that we are in a better position to introduce and enact amendments in this congress. We still have time (2 weeks) for amendments - why are we thinking about alternate arrangements and slowly losing hope. Does this show our level of confidence now or this thread is meant for some light hearted fun?
Guys,
I am trying to mock the bill. Cant we take a joke?
I have been to DC 4 times this year in 2007 and I or other core group members are not going to give up on amendments. And Aman has been there every 2 weeks. I am not kidding. He has been there either on Mon-Tue or Thu-Fri 2 times each month doing meetings in Senate offices and educating and finding sponsors. We are not going to give up now after all that hard work just because the bill is ridiculous.
Just because I am taunting the injustice of the bill doesnt mean that I or others have given up. WE ARE in position to put in amendments. How much, I dont know. But pretty sure that we will make a good amount of difference.
But dont let your hopes down because of a sarcastic comment on the bill. Take it as a joke or ignore it.
I cant imagine how much time/effort has been put into this effort by core members (as a relatively inactive member I myself could have easily spent several hundred hours on these forums in last year and half; and atleast some time in calling/faxing etc.). After all these efforts and seeing the current bill its understandable to get deeply disappointed. But dont lose hope yet. Its not over.
Logiclife - coming this from you really shook me. At one point you were so confident that having our measures in any future CIR is but gauranteed - we thought its just a matter of time. All of us were also thinking that we are in a better position to introduce and enact amendments in this congress. We still have time (2 weeks) for amendments - why are we thinking about alternate arrangements and slowly losing hope. Does this show our level of confidence now or this thread is meant for some light hearted fun?
Guys,
I am trying to mock the bill. Cant we take a joke?
I have been to DC 4 times this year in 2007 and I or other core group members are not going to give up on amendments. And Aman has been there every 2 weeks. I am not kidding. He has been there either on Mon-Tue or Thu-Fri 2 times each month doing meetings in Senate offices and educating and finding sponsors. We are not going to give up now after all that hard work just because the bill is ridiculous.
Just because I am taunting the injustice of the bill doesnt mean that I or others have given up. WE ARE in position to put in amendments. How much, I dont know. But pretty sure that we will make a good amount of difference.
But dont let your hopes down because of a sarcastic comment on the bill. Take it as a joke or ignore it.
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