Jaime
09-22 03:29 AM
Hi everyone.
I was part of the San Jose rally .. where there were about 300 odd people.
My neighbors had been to the immigration rally in Washington(flew from San Jose) and they said that there were about 1000 people there.
I have been following the immigration issues for sometime .. and I'm not very convinced that such small numbers can make the difference.
Silicon Valley has maybe a 100,000 Indian engineers or more. Add families .. and a much higher number. Add Chinese and European immigrants .. and you have all of Silicon valley :)
We should hold a huge rally say in the campus of some company like Cisco .. or Google(who are immigrant friendly) on a work day .. say Friday lunch time .. and have everyone attend.
Being in Cisco .. you can pretty much get all their employees to attend... which is substantial.
Also have industry people talking in favor of better immigration policies.
(we could hold it in some other company or a common area .. anything works)
Unless we can have a substantial number of folks say 10,000 or more .. I don't honestly see too much of a point.
Even if IV collects a few million dollars .. and lobbies .. it will never have the impact of 10000 people protesting.
We need to see if we can have similar rallies ever month in major hubs like New York, Washington, Seattle, Houston.
Unless we have s sustained campaign and we have the numbers .. I personally do not see things really changing.
I see people being optimistic about 300 folks in San Jose rally and 1000 in Washington. But having been to the rally in San Jose I don't see how 3 times that number in Washington is going to cut it. (Read Logiclife's post ... but we still need the numbers !!)
I'm not being a pessimist .. appreciate all the efforts that IV core undertakes .. but am totally unconvinced of major immigration changes. Looking at something like CIR being struck down .. after being on television for long and being debated .. I think we should get real.
Thank you
V
We really SHOULD get REAL NOW! Meaning that we PUSH HARDER NOW! Let's not let the iron cool!!!!
I was part of the San Jose rally .. where there were about 300 odd people.
My neighbors had been to the immigration rally in Washington(flew from San Jose) and they said that there were about 1000 people there.
I have been following the immigration issues for sometime .. and I'm not very convinced that such small numbers can make the difference.
Silicon Valley has maybe a 100,000 Indian engineers or more. Add families .. and a much higher number. Add Chinese and European immigrants .. and you have all of Silicon valley :)
We should hold a huge rally say in the campus of some company like Cisco .. or Google(who are immigrant friendly) on a work day .. say Friday lunch time .. and have everyone attend.
Being in Cisco .. you can pretty much get all their employees to attend... which is substantial.
Also have industry people talking in favor of better immigration policies.
(we could hold it in some other company or a common area .. anything works)
Unless we can have a substantial number of folks say 10,000 or more .. I don't honestly see too much of a point.
Even if IV collects a few million dollars .. and lobbies .. it will never have the impact of 10000 people protesting.
We need to see if we can have similar rallies ever month in major hubs like New York, Washington, Seattle, Houston.
Unless we have s sustained campaign and we have the numbers .. I personally do not see things really changing.
I see people being optimistic about 300 folks in San Jose rally and 1000 in Washington. But having been to the rally in San Jose I don't see how 3 times that number in Washington is going to cut it. (Read Logiclife's post ... but we still need the numbers !!)
I'm not being a pessimist .. appreciate all the efforts that IV core undertakes .. but am totally unconvinced of major immigration changes. Looking at something like CIR being struck down .. after being on television for long and being debated .. I think we should get real.
Thank you
V
We really SHOULD get REAL NOW! Meaning that we PUSH HARDER NOW! Let's not let the iron cool!!!!
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aadimanav
07-18 09:34 AM
I mailed letters to the following today.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein
Sen. Barbara Boxer
Rep. Zoe Lofgren
Great.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein
Sen. Barbara Boxer
Rep. Zoe Lofgren
Great.
chanduv23
10-13 09:59 AM
I was glad I made it even if I was late. The local chapter is no more nebulous entity in my mind. Good to see you all.
PS: My only gripe: laborchic turned out to far from a "chic". What a letdown ;-)
Well - now I understand why you were there :)
PS: My only gripe: laborchic turned out to far from a "chic". What a letdown ;-)
Well - now I understand why you were there :)
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go_guy123
06-30 01:14 PM
Agree 100%. Atleast when Bush was in office there were bills introduced that encouraged skilled immigration Eg: Those who have been around for a while would remember the Cornyn-Kyl bill from 2005.
Everybody likes to talk about the Clinton era, but don't forget that Republicans had majority then. So we may see good things happen after the November 2010 elections if dems lose majority in both house and senate. And it will be good for Mr.Bamster to govern from the center going forward than to hang out with the far-left, may even fetch him another 4 years.
Very true last relief AC21 was passed when republican party had control over Senate and Congress. That time the deomcratic party wanted amnesty but "their" version of the bill never got a chance to be heard by the repuiblican leadership who had control over teh agenda. Now with Pelosi et al in change they do not allow any piecemeal bill to be tabled unless its part of the CIR
Everybody likes to talk about the Clinton era, but don't forget that Republicans had majority then. So we may see good things happen after the November 2010 elections if dems lose majority in both house and senate. And it will be good for Mr.Bamster to govern from the center going forward than to hang out with the far-left, may even fetch him another 4 years.
Very true last relief AC21 was passed when republican party had control over Senate and Congress. That time the deomcratic party wanted amnesty but "their" version of the bill never got a chance to be heard by the repuiblican leadership who had control over teh agenda. Now with Pelosi et al in change they do not allow any piecemeal bill to be tabled unless its part of the CIR
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reddymjm
06-12 05:43 PM
There is no case if your wife says you did not hit her. Didn't find a desi attorney in CA.
You said you are standing trial. At the trial if your wifes says you did not hit her or hurt her. What is the jury going to discus on. I think there is some thing missing here. They just do not want to waste time of the jurors on a simple thing. Your wife can meet the DA in person and request for dismissal.
PM me if you need any more info...
You said you are standing trial. At the trial if your wifes says you did not hit her or hurt her. What is the jury going to discus on. I think there is some thing missing here. They just do not want to waste time of the jurors on a simple thing. Your wife can meet the DA in person and request for dismissal.
PM me if you need any more info...
chanduy9
07-06 12:53 PM
:confused:
Based on what exactly ??
Nobody here even comes close in identifying which are the eligibility criteria. Everybody hopes for one or the other.
Meanwhile one thing is for sure:
Every application filed after July 2nd, is filed AFTER they closed the doors oficially! How are we in the same class as the people from July 2nd ??? Just because we prepared for filing ??? Isn't that a bit weak in the eyes of the law ?
Just talked to my lawyer..he said even if we win the case...eligibility is based on the court order...court order may allow every one or only limited people who are in the class action...and in murthy.com they clearly mentioned that, USCIS MAY look at the apllications very closely who are in the class action....who wants that..
Send flowers on JULY 10TH....the count is reaching 100.
just my 2 cents...
Based on what exactly ??
Nobody here even comes close in identifying which are the eligibility criteria. Everybody hopes for one or the other.
Meanwhile one thing is for sure:
Every application filed after July 2nd, is filed AFTER they closed the doors oficially! How are we in the same class as the people from July 2nd ??? Just because we prepared for filing ??? Isn't that a bit weak in the eyes of the law ?
Just talked to my lawyer..he said even if we win the case...eligibility is based on the court order...court order may allow every one or only limited people who are in the class action...and in murthy.com they clearly mentioned that, USCIS MAY look at the apllications very closely who are in the class action....who wants that..
Send flowers on JULY 10TH....the count is reaching 100.
just my 2 cents...
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Dhundhun
06-24 03:31 AM
2. Make the check or money order payable to U.S.
Department of Homeland Security, unless:
Good observation. Thanks. I hope they honor, what they have written http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD also.
On the same page 8 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf USCIS has written over-rider:
The form fee on this form is current as of the edition date appearing in the lower right corner of this page. However, because USCIS fees change periodically, you can verify if the fees are correct by following one of the steps below:
1. Visit our website at www.uscis.gov, select "Immigration Forms," and check the appropriate fee;
2. Review the Fee Schedule included in your form package, if you called us to request the form; or
3. Telephone our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and ask for the fee information.
Based on over-rider information,
Fees should be made payable to Department of Homeland Security or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The instruction to pay U.S. Department of Homeland Security might be old (05/27/08 - just guess based on over rider information).
So I think, USCIS must be accepting payments in various forms of payable to. I can update in one or two days about "payable to USCIS" - Whether accepted or rejected.
I was looking into other info also about I-765 filing. The instruction is too old for students (Foreign Students). Most of the information is given for them in http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73ddd59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
Department of Homeland Security, unless:
Good observation. Thanks. I hope they honor, what they have written http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD also.
On the same page 8 of http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/I-765instr.pdf USCIS has written over-rider:
The form fee on this form is current as of the edition date appearing in the lower right corner of this page. However, because USCIS fees change periodically, you can verify if the fees are correct by following one of the steps below:
1. Visit our website at www.uscis.gov, select "Immigration Forms," and check the appropriate fee;
2. Review the Fee Schedule included in your form package, if you called us to request the form; or
3. Telephone our National Customer Service Center at 1-800-375-5283 and ask for the fee information.
Based on over-rider information,
Fees should be made payable to Department of Homeland Security or U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. The instruction to pay U.S. Department of Homeland Security might be old (05/27/08 - just guess based on over rider information).
So I think, USCIS must be accepting payments in various forms of payable to. I can update in one or two days about "payable to USCIS" - Whether accepted or rejected.
I was looking into other info also about I-765 filing. The instruction is too old for students (Foreign Students). Most of the information is given for them in http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=73ddd59cb7a5d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=db029c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD
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kaarmaa
02-01 04:40 PM
You were right. It seems they have updated status today. My case got processed on 01/27. Now waiting for the documents
What was your received date on the receipt notice?
What was your received date on the receipt notice?
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bobzibub
08-18 04:23 PM
If we have children, I would prefer to have them at home.
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dummgelauft
08-26 03:31 PM
Bump
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nrk
08-11 01:01 PM
PD = Date on which your labor application received.
My 140 says it is the date on which my labor application received. i believe it is the case with all.
Please contact USCIS to get that corrected.
Can some one clarify if the PD is based on the day labor application was received or the day it was approved?
My I140 states it as the day it was approved.
My 140 says it is the date on which my labor application received. i believe it is the case with all.
Please contact USCIS to get that corrected.
Can some one clarify if the PD is based on the day labor application was received or the day it was approved?
My I140 states it as the day it was approved.
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parvezmusani
04-11 11:39 AM
One of the immigration lawyers I talked to said that photocopy should be fine.
Will only the receipt number work at all? Any idea folks?
Will only the receipt number work at all? Any idea folks?
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sri1309
05-09 09:37 AM
Best way to get more immigrants to participate in advocacy efforts by immigrationvoice.org for legal immigration is by communicating to international student organizations of various universities around virginia, maryland, washingtondc,west virginia north and south carolina. Arranging busses for the students is not a bad idea. Students once convinced why they need change in current immigration reforms for employment base legal immigrants will participate in huge numbers to attend the advocacy efforts done by immigrationvoice.org as they have more time in hand
Good idea, I already passed this info to 10 universities with my contacts.
Good idea, I already passed this info to 10 universities with my contacts.
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styrum
02-08 12:37 PM
http://kdoch.state.ks.us/KDOCHdocs/BD/FLC_Specific_Vocational_Preparation_SVP_Levels.doc
This is rather discouraging if this is true. This basically says one can't require any experience for zone IV if you require MS.
This is rather discouraging if this is true. This basically says one can't require any experience for zone IV if you require MS.
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ashkam
05-13 12:51 PM
When there is a overflow, I strongly feel that it should flow to all the categories and that is called equality. Some inefficient people in Decision making authority at USCIS framed a rule on visa overflow and they are following it. If the rule is not much logical/ethical to most of the people, then anyone can voice their rights against it.
Just for example, a team consists of one project manager(EB1), two tech leads(EB2) and 6 Developers(EB3). The demand is based on no. of vacancies exists on the market, that means a lot of EB3, less EB2 and few EB1.
As per this rule, USCIS is not actually feeding the hungry.
Regarding the country quota, US is not favoring/helping the foreign countries by giving GC to those people from them. So, it makes no sense at all when it comes to immigrants but I can understand the bureaucracy behind it.
If they are implementing the country limit then it should be like 0.00001% of that country's population, I feel.
What are you talking about? There are a limited number of green cards each year. The US wants the best of the best to get these green cards. Therefore, more preference is given to those with a higher degree or more experience. What's unjust or unfair about that? The trick is to look at things from the American perspective and not from the immigrant perspective.
And for the record, I am an EB3.
Just for example, a team consists of one project manager(EB1), two tech leads(EB2) and 6 Developers(EB3). The demand is based on no. of vacancies exists on the market, that means a lot of EB3, less EB2 and few EB1.
As per this rule, USCIS is not actually feeding the hungry.
Regarding the country quota, US is not favoring/helping the foreign countries by giving GC to those people from them. So, it makes no sense at all when it comes to immigrants but I can understand the bureaucracy behind it.
If they are implementing the country limit then it should be like 0.00001% of that country's population, I feel.
What are you talking about? There are a limited number of green cards each year. The US wants the best of the best to get these green cards. Therefore, more preference is given to those with a higher degree or more experience. What's unjust or unfair about that? The trick is to look at things from the American perspective and not from the immigrant perspective.
And for the record, I am an EB3.
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swadeshi
06-26 01:24 PM
According to my lawyer, the person (in this case your wife) must be in USA until your wife's AP application is accepted. Basically your wife should not try to apply AP when the she is not physically in USA.
After the application acceptance, your wife can travel.
Disclaimer: Please do not take this granted and always consult your immigration attorney.
I would like to differ on this, the person applying for a renewal of AP does not have to be physically present in the US until the AP is approved. Our attorney confirmed this and if you notice on the AP application form it states if the document has to be mailed to a different address other than USA.
Our attorney said one can apply for a renewal even from a different country, the clause that one has to be physically present in US is only for the initial I485 and AP application.
I have applied for AP renewal on June 23rd and am traveling next month to India for 2 months will be back before my current AP expires i.e. Oct 10th. My attorney actually asked me to apply for renewal before I leave for India.
After the application acceptance, your wife can travel.
Disclaimer: Please do not take this granted and always consult your immigration attorney.
I would like to differ on this, the person applying for a renewal of AP does not have to be physically present in the US until the AP is approved. Our attorney confirmed this and if you notice on the AP application form it states if the document has to be mailed to a different address other than USA.
Our attorney said one can apply for a renewal even from a different country, the clause that one has to be physically present in US is only for the initial I485 and AP application.
I have applied for AP renewal on June 23rd and am traveling next month to India for 2 months will be back before my current AP expires i.e. Oct 10th. My attorney actually asked me to apply for renewal before I leave for India.
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njdude26
07-21 02:56 PM
In my case im here working for a canadian company with offices both in US and Canada. So Im moving to Canada in Oct to maintain my PR card. But you may ask why I need to maintain it and just not continue here filing 1 year h1s !!
costs 3k+ for the company every year !
also you never know when the rules here will change and i will get a gc or the rules may change in such a way that i will never get a gc.. so if i atleast have a canadian PR card and then may be become a canadian citizen i can come back here and work on a TN visa or whatever...
and also for now i will be maintaining my H1 atleats for another 1 1/2 years by getting paid here in the US. I will use my friends address here as my address and i will be telecommuting from Canada. i know i will have to pay US taxes + canadian taxes (additional). Anyone else doing this ?
Big reason im staying in North America is Health reasons...
costs 3k+ for the company every year !
also you never know when the rules here will change and i will get a gc or the rules may change in such a way that i will never get a gc.. so if i atleast have a canadian PR card and then may be become a canadian citizen i can come back here and work on a TN visa or whatever...
and also for now i will be maintaining my H1 atleats for another 1 1/2 years by getting paid here in the US. I will use my friends address here as my address and i will be telecommuting from Canada. i know i will have to pay US taxes + canadian taxes (additional). Anyone else doing this ?
Big reason im staying in North America is Health reasons...
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immigrationmatters30
09-23 12:19 PM
King will, as usual, will come up with alot of amendments again. By the way, they have to finish with the horse bill and then they will come to our bill and then they have to finish the nurse bill. All the bills along with the Mr.Kings amendements have to be done in 2hrs because it starts at 3PM and ends at 5PM.
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ragz4u
05-11 10:27 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060511/ap_on_go_co/immigration
WASHINGTON - Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day.
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The agreement brokered by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and Minority Harry Reid, D-Nev., breaks a political stalemate that has lingered for weeks while immigrants and their supporters held rallies, boycotts and protests to push for action.
Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation.
Frist said the Senate will send 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats to negotiate with the House, with seven of the Republicans coming from the Judiciary Committee and seven of the Democrats chosen by Reid.
Frist said a "considerable" number of amendments would be debated when the Senate begins debating the bill early next week.
It would be the most comprehensive rewrite of immigration laws since the so-called Simpson-Mazzoli bill some 20 years ago.
Reid acknowledged on the Senate floor Thursday morning that he "didn't get everything that I wanted" in the agreement, but said Frist didn't either. Reaching the agreement is "not easy with the political atmosphere," Reid said.
Reid had been taking some criticism for refusing to move forward on the bill after complaining that Republicans were trying to undermine it with amendments and insisting that Democrats be allowed to have a say in who serves on the conference committee.
Republicans, too, have had opposition from conservatives to the compromise proposal. These critics consider its path to citizenship provision for illegal immigrants and hundreds of thousands of future guest workers to be tantamount to "amnesty."
They've also had to contend with fallout from opposition to the House bill that triggered nationwide protests that drew hundreds of thousands in Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas, and hundreds more in other cities and small communities.
Presidential and midyear politics have been a subtext to the immigration debate. Frist and Arizona Sen. John McCain ([URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20John%20McCain%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw"]news (http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=m2Mu586.I3oEETl1Q8LB5QD5P.66CkRjVskADpMk&T=1bhktcstd%2fX%3d1147360969%2fE%3d83018124%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3d8%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d2 444784108%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PS JBbWVyaWNhbjtpdDtIb3VzZTtJdDtwb2xpdGljcztkZWJhdGU7 QnVzaW5lc3M7cmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb19jb2 0iIHJlZnVybD0icmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb19j b20iIHRvcGljcz0icmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb1 9jb20i%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d5023BECE&U=13994266v%2fN%3dp7iUVc6.Irk-%2fC%3d395108.7908979.8803055.1414694%2fD%3dLREC%2 fB%3d3338499), bio (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=117abbj56/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=192), voting record (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=11gvsboie/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=192)), one of the architects of the legalization proposed, are speculated to be competing for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.
The compromise bill the Senate will consider builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-8, with six Republicans voting and all Democrats approving the measure.
That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20Edward%20M.%20Kennedy%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw), bio (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=117gklk9e/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=297), voting record (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=11gbh3bl6/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=297)), D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents.
President Bush (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=President+Bush) had helped accelerate progress on the bill after meeting with a bipartisan group of senators last month and stating clearer support for allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.
"Business and labor, Democrats and Republicans, religious leaders and the American people strongly support our plan to strengthen borders, provide a path to earned citizenship for those undocumented workers who are here and put in place a realistic guest worker program for the future," Kennedy said.
WASHINGTON - Senate leaders reached a deal Thursday on reviving a broad immigration bill that could provide millions of illegal immigrants a chance to become American citizens and said they'll try to pass it before Memorial Day.
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The agreement brokered by Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., and Minority Harry Reid, D-Nev., breaks a political stalemate that has lingered for weeks while immigrants and their supporters held rallies, boycotts and protests to push for action.
Key to the agreement is who will be negotiating a compromise with the House, which last December passed an enforcement-only bill that would subject the estimated 11 million to 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States to felony charges as well as deportation.
Frist said the Senate will send 14 Republicans and 12 Democrats to negotiate with the House, with seven of the Republicans coming from the Judiciary Committee and seven of the Democrats chosen by Reid.
Frist said a "considerable" number of amendments would be debated when the Senate begins debating the bill early next week.
It would be the most comprehensive rewrite of immigration laws since the so-called Simpson-Mazzoli bill some 20 years ago.
Reid acknowledged on the Senate floor Thursday morning that he "didn't get everything that I wanted" in the agreement, but said Frist didn't either. Reaching the agreement is "not easy with the political atmosphere," Reid said.
Reid had been taking some criticism for refusing to move forward on the bill after complaining that Republicans were trying to undermine it with amendments and insisting that Democrats be allowed to have a say in who serves on the conference committee.
Republicans, too, have had opposition from conservatives to the compromise proposal. These critics consider its path to citizenship provision for illegal immigrants and hundreds of thousands of future guest workers to be tantamount to "amnesty."
They've also had to contend with fallout from opposition to the House bill that triggered nationwide protests that drew hundreds of thousands in Los Angeles, Chicago and Dallas, and hundreds more in other cities and small communities.
Presidential and midyear politics have been a subtext to the immigration debate. Frist and Arizona Sen. John McCain ([URL="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20John%20McCain%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw"]news (http://us.bc.yahoo.com/b?P=m2Mu586.I3oEETl1Q8LB5QD5P.66CkRjVskADpMk&T=1bhktcstd%2fX%3d1147360969%2fE%3d83018124%2fR%3d news%2fK%3d5%2fV%3d2.1%2fW%3d8%2fY%3dYAHOO%2fF%3d2 444784108%2fH%3dY2FjaGVoaW50PSJuZXdzIiBjb250ZW50PS JBbWVyaWNhbjtpdDtIb3VzZTtJdDtwb2xpdGljcztkZWJhdGU7 QnVzaW5lc3M7cmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb19jb2 0iIHJlZnVybD0icmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb19j b20iIHRvcGljcz0icmVmdXJsX3VzX2YzNjJfbWFpbF95YWhvb1 9jb20i%2fQ%3d-1%2fS%3d1%2fJ%3d5023BECE&U=13994266v%2fN%3dp7iUVc6.Irk-%2fC%3d395108.7908979.8803055.1414694%2fD%3dLREC%2 fB%3d3338499), bio (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=117abbj56/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=192), voting record (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=11gvsboie/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=192)), one of the architects of the legalization proposed, are speculated to be competing for the 2008 GOP presidential nomination.
The compromise bill the Senate will consider builds on legislation approved by the Senate Judiciary Committee 12-8, with six Republicans voting and all Democrats approving the measure.
That measure absorbed a bill drafted by McCain and Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/DailyNews/politics/news/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/*http://news.search.yahoo.com/search/news?fr=news-storylinks&p=%22Sen.%20Edward%20M.%20Kennedy%22&c=&n=20&yn=c&c=news&cs=nw), bio (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/bio/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=117gklk9e/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/?id=297), voting record (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/capadv/vote/ap/ap_on_go_co/immigration/19003417/SIG=11gbh3bl6/*http://yahoo.capwiz.com/y/bio/keyvotes/?id=297)), D-Mass., that called for allowing illegal immigrants to work toward becoming legal permanent residents.
President Bush (http://search.news.yahoo.com/search/news/?p=President+Bush) had helped accelerate progress on the bill after meeting with a bipartisan group of senators last month and stating clearer support for allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.
"Business and labor, Democrats and Republicans, religious leaders and the American people strongly support our plan to strengthen borders, provide a path to earned citizenship for those undocumented workers who are here and put in place a realistic guest worker program for the future," Kennedy said.
Goodintentions
04-20 06:11 AM
Politicians always want to keep issues alive! If issues go away, there is nothing to fight, nothing to talk in the elections; without issues you cannot get "bulk" support from any specific group! So, the so called CIR will remain a "perpetual carrot". It will never happen in our life time.
We are all mature, educated people from a highly politically conscious environment! So...we are not naive, I am sure!
I take this opportunity to summarize a few things which have happened in the context of "long term indentured" labourers like us:
1. Quantum jump in terms of H1 ---> about 8 / 9 years back [happened because of pressure from corporations and their lobbies, nothing to with us. they wanted cheap labour and more profits!]
2. "Free for all" L1s ---> There is no cap, no specialty skill requirement. Not even sure if this has a min wage like H1. Why? Only because it serves the interests of the corporations to import 80% of the work force in any project!
3. Yearly H1 extensions based on Labour approvals / 3 year extensions for I 140 cases ---> When the "slaves" started returning after 6 years (without GCs being approved) the corporations growled and again the lobbies worked day and night. This has nothing to do with our pleading!
4. AC 21 ---> This is a good feature with a humane angle, but again there is NO WRITTEN MEMO permitting the employees to switch jobs 6 months after receving their EADs! This has been clearly articulated in a new item by Murthy.com! So AC21 is NOT a fool proof mechanism!
If the employer withdraws his I 140 there is a fair chance that 485 might be denied. (as per Murthy.com, there are a number of cases where such denials have happened). Again INS will never issue a memo, because it will antagonize the corporations
5. EAD / AP merger ---> this is a minor change in procedure, an admin fix! This is not a policy change. Full credit to several immigration forums and pleadings. However, this is not going to help many of us as our AP / EAD dates vary by several weeks and we might not be able to file them together
So, after 10 + years pleading, we have been able to get an admin fix :) That is amazing!!! Under the circumstances we cannot even dream of any legislative support or correction! Instead of Chinese / Indians in the endless line had citizens of the EU nations been affected, everything would have been fixed ages back!
Everyone is interested in the illegals and their "hard working" school children! That is because of the money, muscle, vote power they wield! Even if they were to have 1% of the law on their side, they would have achieved their objective ages back! They are holding us hostage because we have 100% of the law on our side and they have 0% of the law on their side. Otherwise, why should we law abiding immigrants be grouped with people who jumped fence?
Think...does this make sense at all? Correct me if I am wrong! I will accept my mistakes with all humility!
How is the CIR even relevant in our case? Did we do anythng illegal????
What are we all waiting for? ~ ~ ~
Honestly, NOTHING but the WILL of the SUPREME POWER can help us !!! (more than 99% of the population are believers, anyway)
Youngsters in the early to mid 30s with "non US citizen kids" please think seriously. Do not waste your time in this mess for decades. We have all suffered for 10 - 12 years now and have no options. If you cross the age of 40 then you cannot immigrate to any western country because you will lose in the "points system". It would be a good option to live in countries who have a clear cut time bound program which does not discriminate on the basis of your nationality.
When the corporations wanted you and I, H1 was increased - no one was bothered about your nationality at that time. Today when we want a future for our family and kids, people talk about quota and diversity! This is what is known as "Having the cake and eating it too"
Remember, the system has been designed to support and ensure long term indentured labour to sustain the greedy corporations! There is no place for empathy or compassion. It is business! It is money! Free market enterprise works this way!
If we are expecting miracles, we are chasing a mirage!!!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 communities and give them the strength, resilience and the patience they badly need!!!
================================
Hi all!
Please visit this link !
Comprehensive immigration reform probably doomed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_immigration)
THis is precisely what I had said yesterday! The issues HAS and WILL be kept alive, FOREVER!
In a way it is good because, now we can plead with both parties to think of LEGAL WORKERS like us!
If this ends the "hostage drama" by the "illegals" we should be more than happy!
What next???
Thank you!!!
We are all mature, educated people from a highly politically conscious environment! So...we are not naive, I am sure!
I take this opportunity to summarize a few things which have happened in the context of "long term indentured" labourers like us:
1. Quantum jump in terms of H1 ---> about 8 / 9 years back [happened because of pressure from corporations and their lobbies, nothing to with us. they wanted cheap labour and more profits!]
2. "Free for all" L1s ---> There is no cap, no specialty skill requirement. Not even sure if this has a min wage like H1. Why? Only because it serves the interests of the corporations to import 80% of the work force in any project!
3. Yearly H1 extensions based on Labour approvals / 3 year extensions for I 140 cases ---> When the "slaves" started returning after 6 years (without GCs being approved) the corporations growled and again the lobbies worked day and night. This has nothing to do with our pleading!
4. AC 21 ---> This is a good feature with a humane angle, but again there is NO WRITTEN MEMO permitting the employees to switch jobs 6 months after receving their EADs! This has been clearly articulated in a new item by Murthy.com! So AC21 is NOT a fool proof mechanism!
If the employer withdraws his I 140 there is a fair chance that 485 might be denied. (as per Murthy.com, there are a number of cases where such denials have happened). Again INS will never issue a memo, because it will antagonize the corporations
5. EAD / AP merger ---> this is a minor change in procedure, an admin fix! This is not a policy change. Full credit to several immigration forums and pleadings. However, this is not going to help many of us as our AP / EAD dates vary by several weeks and we might not be able to file them together
So, after 10 + years pleading, we have been able to get an admin fix :) That is amazing!!! Under the circumstances we cannot even dream of any legislative support or correction! Instead of Chinese / Indians in the endless line had citizens of the EU nations been affected, everything would have been fixed ages back!
Everyone is interested in the illegals and their "hard working" school children! That is because of the money, muscle, vote power they wield! Even if they were to have 1% of the law on their side, they would have achieved their objective ages back! They are holding us hostage because we have 100% of the law on our side and they have 0% of the law on their side. Otherwise, why should we law abiding immigrants be grouped with people who jumped fence?
Think...does this make sense at all? Correct me if I am wrong! I will accept my mistakes with all humility!
How is the CIR even relevant in our case? Did we do anythng illegal????
What are we all waiting for? ~ ~ ~
Honestly, NOTHING but the WILL of the SUPREME POWER can help us !!! (more than 99% of the population are believers, anyway)
Youngsters in the early to mid 30s with "non US citizen kids" please think seriously. Do not waste your time in this mess for decades. We have all suffered for 10 - 12 years now and have no options. If you cross the age of 40 then you cannot immigrate to any western country because you will lose in the "points system". It would be a good option to live in countries who have a clear cut time bound program which does not discriminate on the basis of your nationality.
When the corporations wanted you and I, H1 was increased - no one was bothered about your nationality at that time. Today when we want a future for our family and kids, people talk about quota and diversity! This is what is known as "Having the cake and eating it too"
Remember, the system has been designed to support and ensure long term indentured labour to sustain the greedy corporations! There is no place for empathy or compassion. It is business! It is money! Free market enterprise works this way!
If we are expecting miracles, we are chasing a mirage!!!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the EB2 / EB3 communities and give them the strength, resilience and the patience they badly need!!!
================================
Hi all!
Please visit this link !
Comprehensive immigration reform probably doomed - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_immigration)
THis is precisely what I had said yesterday! The issues HAS and WILL be kept alive, FOREVER!
In a way it is good because, now we can plead with both parties to think of LEGAL WORKERS like us!
If this ends the "hostage drama" by the "illegals" we should be more than happy!
What next???
Thank you!!!
BharatPremi
12-11 11:30 PM
It is not I, who decides it on what to do. It is always the opinion of majority members.
Welcome Sir.:)
Welcome Sir.:)
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