chanduv23
07-09 01:06 PM
Would you please elaborate if the flower campaign has hit any mainstream media like CNN, Fox etc?? Or just the TOI and other small covers? I just want to know how famous this has become.. Thanks.
Mainstream media seem to be cautious about these issues as it may work against their self interests.
I am still surprised that CNN did not pick this though MSNBC (did a positive) and FOX (Did a negative) on this
Mainstream media seem to be cautious about these issues as it may work against their self interests.
I am still surprised that CNN did not pick this though MSNBC (did a positive) and FOX (Did a negative) on this
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makemygc
07-06 10:20 AM
Hey guys,
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
AILA has expanded the definition of the plaintiff to cover all the july filings but it does not mean that you will be beneficiary if you have just filed in July. You either have to be a plaintiff or member of the class action (if judge allows). That also does not guarantee that you will get the benefit if lawsuit is won. As per AILF, only limited number of visa will be made available upon winning the lawsuit and that will cover only people who filed early in July. All depends upon number of visa made available, number of applications filed and out of those how many are part of class action lawsuit.
See this excerpts from immigration-law:-
The AILF is currently developing a lawsuit against the USCIS and the DOS. As reported earlier, apparently the AILF has been successful in finding the potential plaintiffs for the lawsuit. The plaintiffs will automatically become members of the class in the class action who will get the relief if they win in the lawsuit. The details of the relief this lawsuit is pursuing are articulated in the AILF's Visa Bulletin Lawsuit FAQ. For the summary, please click here.
The lawsuit team lawyers are still developing the strategies and details of the members of the class this lawsuit will cover who are not members of the plaintiffs. As they move along, the details can be changed, but according to the FAQ, membership of the class would require filing of EB I-485 applications in July 2007. Accordingly, those who fail to file EB I-485 applications are likely not included in the membership and will not be able to receive the fruits of the litigation, once the class wins in the litigation. Relevant to the issue of when the EB I-485 should be filed to receive the benefit as a class member is the number of July visa numbers which will be made available to the members of the winning class of the lawsuit. Obviously, the visa numbers will be limited in numbers. The members of the class will have to compete each other for the numbers. According to the FAQ, the number will be taken under the principle First In First Out bases. Accordingly, the earlier his/her EB I-485 is filed, the better the chance of getting the number before they are exhausted. It appears that those who fail to get the numbers are likely to be left out of any benefits of the litigation.
It thus appears that some people may want to file the EB I-485 applications with the full knowledge that the applications will be rejected and returned by the USCIS, just to become a member of the class of this lawsuit. Consdering the fact that some visa numbers may become available in October 2007 for certain people, they may be less desperate and eager in seeking membership of the class of the lawsuite. While, the nationals of ovesubscribed countries such as India, China, Mexico, and Philippines will need the fruits of this litigation much more desperately than the people from other countries. Additionally, EB-3 people may have such need more than EB-1 or EB-2 since when new visa numbers become available in October, the EB-3 numbers are likely more oversubscribed than EB-1 and EB-2. Lastly, the lower the priority date is, the more they will need the fruit of the litigation as the higher priority date applicants will have a better chance to get their priority date becoming current in October or soon thereafter. These variants should give a guide to the people to determine whether or not they should file EB I-485 applications to become a member of the class.
However, these factors alone should not be considered absolute determinants in deciding whether they should file the EB I-485 applications in July. The FAQ indicates that the downside of becoming a member of the class by filing EB I-485 applications in July is potential extensive and in-depth scrutiny of the cases by the USCIS to weed out the applicants on the ground of ineligibility of I-485 applications. Accordingly, people with some potential issues of whatever nature may be considered poor candidates for the membership of the class. The straight forward case should be considerred a better candidate for filing EB I-485 applications in July, while those with some potential wrinkes in the case may stay away from filing the application in July.
For the foregoing reasons, people should seek assessment of one's case by legal counsel for appropriateness of filing EB I-485 now and becoming a potential member of the class of the lawsuit. It is absolutely no and no to jump into filing the applications without the appropriate legal counsel.
I have a question to all of you...
AILA prepares the lawsuit and some (probably most) of the lawyers are supporting that.
For several days I keep hearing that WHEN you file (in July) is not important and I am wondering how that could be true...
I understand that the people who filed on July 2nd are beneficiaries of this but in my mind, everybody who files after falls under a different category because technically they would file after the revised bulletin was announced therefore have no argument. I understand that everybody else prepared (legal fees, medical exam and so on) and they are affected even if they didn't file but I am wondering how that can be justification enough after the dates (retrogression) were announced.
I am trying to understand why they say that it does not matter when you file. They need more people to back this up or is just so they can justify billing you for their work...
Is just scary, how many people play with our hopes and I need to understand if this is just to serve somebody's interests or it is what it is .
Please post your 2 cents ...
Thanks !
AILA has expanded the definition of the plaintiff to cover all the july filings but it does not mean that you will be beneficiary if you have just filed in July. You either have to be a plaintiff or member of the class action (if judge allows). That also does not guarantee that you will get the benefit if lawsuit is won. As per AILF, only limited number of visa will be made available upon winning the lawsuit and that will cover only people who filed early in July. All depends upon number of visa made available, number of applications filed and out of those how many are part of class action lawsuit.
See this excerpts from immigration-law:-
The AILF is currently developing a lawsuit against the USCIS and the DOS. As reported earlier, apparently the AILF has been successful in finding the potential plaintiffs for the lawsuit. The plaintiffs will automatically become members of the class in the class action who will get the relief if they win in the lawsuit. The details of the relief this lawsuit is pursuing are articulated in the AILF's Visa Bulletin Lawsuit FAQ. For the summary, please click here.
The lawsuit team lawyers are still developing the strategies and details of the members of the class this lawsuit will cover who are not members of the plaintiffs. As they move along, the details can be changed, but according to the FAQ, membership of the class would require filing of EB I-485 applications in July 2007. Accordingly, those who fail to file EB I-485 applications are likely not included in the membership and will not be able to receive the fruits of the litigation, once the class wins in the litigation. Relevant to the issue of when the EB I-485 should be filed to receive the benefit as a class member is the number of July visa numbers which will be made available to the members of the winning class of the lawsuit. Obviously, the visa numbers will be limited in numbers. The members of the class will have to compete each other for the numbers. According to the FAQ, the number will be taken under the principle First In First Out bases. Accordingly, the earlier his/her EB I-485 is filed, the better the chance of getting the number before they are exhausted. It appears that those who fail to get the numbers are likely to be left out of any benefits of the litigation.
It thus appears that some people may want to file the EB I-485 applications with the full knowledge that the applications will be rejected and returned by the USCIS, just to become a member of the class of this lawsuit. Consdering the fact that some visa numbers may become available in October 2007 for certain people, they may be less desperate and eager in seeking membership of the class of the lawsuite. While, the nationals of ovesubscribed countries such as India, China, Mexico, and Philippines will need the fruits of this litigation much more desperately than the people from other countries. Additionally, EB-3 people may have such need more than EB-1 or EB-2 since when new visa numbers become available in October, the EB-3 numbers are likely more oversubscribed than EB-1 and EB-2. Lastly, the lower the priority date is, the more they will need the fruit of the litigation as the higher priority date applicants will have a better chance to get their priority date becoming current in October or soon thereafter. These variants should give a guide to the people to determine whether or not they should file EB I-485 applications to become a member of the class.
However, these factors alone should not be considered absolute determinants in deciding whether they should file the EB I-485 applications in July. The FAQ indicates that the downside of becoming a member of the class by filing EB I-485 applications in July is potential extensive and in-depth scrutiny of the cases by the USCIS to weed out the applicants on the ground of ineligibility of I-485 applications. Accordingly, people with some potential issues of whatever nature may be considered poor candidates for the membership of the class. The straight forward case should be considerred a better candidate for filing EB I-485 applications in July, while those with some potential wrinkes in the case may stay away from filing the application in July.
For the foregoing reasons, people should seek assessment of one's case by legal counsel for appropriateness of filing EB I-485 now and becoming a potential member of the class of the lawsuit. It is absolutely no and no to jump into filing the applications without the appropriate legal counsel.
DSLStart
08-23 09:58 AM
^^ Please keep poll bumping for next few days ^^
A recent post asking about how many people have EB2-India PDs of 2003 or earlier had no responses, so I am curious about the potential spread of waiting people (atleast in the sample set of whoever responds to this poll).
RESPOND ONLY IF YOU ARE EB2 INDIA, HAVE FILED 485, AND ARE WAITING FOR APPROVAL.
(we can do separate polls for EB3-I, china, ROW etc)
A recent post asking about how many people have EB2-India PDs of 2003 or earlier had no responses, so I am curious about the potential spread of waiting people (atleast in the sample set of whoever responds to this poll).
RESPOND ONLY IF YOU ARE EB2 INDIA, HAVE FILED 485, AND ARE WAITING FOR APPROVAL.
(we can do separate polls for EB3-I, china, ROW etc)
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vagish
04-26 12:42 AM
you got to be shitting me on this, I think this whole thing has become a massive
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thanks
shit pot, eveybody is througing what ever they have
thanks
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chandru118
09-10 03:12 PM
When I checked the status of my FOIA request in the USCIS website, it says that it was processed on Aug 30th. But I have not received anything in the mail. How long does it take from processed date to get info in the mail? Can anyone share their experience?
srt57
02-09 01:36 PM
Hi,
I have applied in EB2 category with job title of Sr. software engineer. and I have frnds who have applied for EB2 under, Programmer analyst, team lead.
But all of them had Master of science from USA.
And all of us have our I140 cleared and waiting to apply for I485 when its gets current.
Reno, could you please give us more information about your and your friends' experience :
- What your qualifications are.
What the Sr. software engineer job requirements were. Things like:
- Education
- Experience
and also more info about your experience with PERM:
- Processing center. Chicago or Atlanta?
- Processing time.
- Any audits?
- Any business necessity documentation requirements?
I know I'm asking for a lot of info but I think it would be extremely helpful for many folks who are preparing to file under EB2 to avoid regression.
I have applied in EB2 category with job title of Sr. software engineer. and I have frnds who have applied for EB2 under, Programmer analyst, team lead.
But all of them had Master of science from USA.
And all of us have our I140 cleared and waiting to apply for I485 when its gets current.
Reno, could you please give us more information about your and your friends' experience :
- What your qualifications are.
What the Sr. software engineer job requirements were. Things like:
- Education
- Experience
and also more info about your experience with PERM:
- Processing center. Chicago or Atlanta?
- Processing time.
- Any audits?
- Any business necessity documentation requirements?
I know I'm asking for a lot of info but I think it would be extremely helpful for many folks who are preparing to file under EB2 to avoid regression.
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unitednations
08-16 01:36 PM
I personally think that 6 month rule-of-thumb is nonsense.
AC21 clearly states you can switch employers 6 months after your green card application has been pending. On what legal basis could USCIS then come back and deny citizenship to anyone for switching employers too soon after getting their green card?
I'd really be interested to hear if someone has specific knowledge of a case where someone had their citizenship denied due to switching companies too soon after getting their green card.
I'm just curious as to how many postings you see on these boards where a persons case has been denied; DOL/USCIS has visited their home; their visa got cancelled by consultate when h-4 went for stamping; got caught in interview lying; DOL investigating companies, etc...
People do not post these types of issues on immigration forums.
AC21 clearly states you can switch employers 6 months after your green card application has been pending. On what legal basis could USCIS then come back and deny citizenship to anyone for switching employers too soon after getting their green card?
I'd really be interested to hear if someone has specific knowledge of a case where someone had their citizenship denied due to switching companies too soon after getting their green card.
I'm just curious as to how many postings you see on these boards where a persons case has been denied; DOL/USCIS has visited their home; their visa got cancelled by consultate when h-4 went for stamping; got caught in interview lying; DOL investigating companies, etc...
People do not post these types of issues on immigration forums.
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gimme_GC2006
05-06 08:48 PM
Guys!!!
No point in showing frustration. Its not our birth right. We all were well educated before we came in here. Situation changes. And system makes an adjustment. Dont blame your country( I am also from India), for no one asked us to move out. There are so many nice positions available to work for. More than 80% of us found here a better oppurtunity, because there were no competition at all in getting jobs. 1st come 1st serve.
So do not complain. They do not have any urgency to hand us over the GCs. We can only request them to do the needful on the basis of our sorry state of affairs. Again, we are still at their mecrcy.
So stop complaining. Either wait and support IV or boot out.
Very well said..I have many desi ppl at my work place who gag about H1b slavery blah-blah..Not giving GC early..
People need to understand. (Offcourse its frustrating to wait for..but no one forced us to stay here..or come here)
No point in showing frustration. Its not our birth right. We all were well educated before we came in here. Situation changes. And system makes an adjustment. Dont blame your country( I am also from India), for no one asked us to move out. There are so many nice positions available to work for. More than 80% of us found here a better oppurtunity, because there were no competition at all in getting jobs. 1st come 1st serve.
So do not complain. They do not have any urgency to hand us over the GCs. We can only request them to do the needful on the basis of our sorry state of affairs. Again, we are still at their mecrcy.
So stop complaining. Either wait and support IV or boot out.
Very well said..I have many desi ppl at my work place who gag about H1b slavery blah-blah..Not giving GC early..
People need to understand. (Offcourse its frustrating to wait for..but no one forced us to stay here..or come here)
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chanduv23
10-02 02:42 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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BharatPremi
05-29 08:20 PM
i am not sure why you think kavya wont excel in her life - she already has a great headstart with close to 40grand in winnings! i also dont know why you think she will end up working for a non-ivy league educated manager - & even then why its a bad thing to win a spelling bee..too many gaps or leaps in thoughts/logic?!
If you come across and experience families who make their kids to go through the labor (hell) then and then only you would understand what he is trying to say. The other way of experiencing is to watch the pattern and construct of these spelling bees carefully and apply your own thinking process. Once you do this you would almost agree what logiclife was trying to throw to us.Spelling Bee competition, though make a child well aware about the roots of the words (latin, Greek roots) and provide enough exposure to the kid to understand the English language in its essence, it does not teach a kid how to think, how to become creative and innovative.
Of course nobody can generalize that particular winninng kid will/may/won't/may not do good in life but more or less these are not the competitions through which parents with reasoning or thinking ability would let their children go. Yes there are some advantages but if you try to enlist then list of disadvantages would become lengthier..
If you come across and experience families who make their kids to go through the labor (hell) then and then only you would understand what he is trying to say. The other way of experiencing is to watch the pattern and construct of these spelling bees carefully and apply your own thinking process. Once you do this you would almost agree what logiclife was trying to throw to us.Spelling Bee competition, though make a child well aware about the roots of the words (latin, Greek roots) and provide enough exposure to the kid to understand the English language in its essence, it does not teach a kid how to think, how to become creative and innovative.
Of course nobody can generalize that particular winninng kid will/may/won't/may not do good in life but more or less these are not the competitions through which parents with reasoning or thinking ability would let their children go. Yes there are some advantages but if you try to enlist then list of disadvantages would become lengthier..
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ganguteli
07-16 10:13 AM
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It is underwritten by ING/ReliaStar
They are offering:
� guarantee issue- NO MEDICAL QUESTIONS
� Premium amounts as low as $5.00 per week
� Policies available for your spouse, dependent children and grandchildren
� Tax deferred cash value accumulations
� The convenience of payroll deductions
� Policies are fully portable, meaning you can keep your policies should you leave your employment
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logiclife
01-26 03:57 PM
Thanks to everyone who has contributed so far. You contribution not only helps the efforts, it is also an indication of the magnitude of the problem.
Please remember to ask your other H1B friends to sign up and convince them to contribute. One person can only contribute so much but one can always ask co-workers and friends to sign up. Even those who are in their 2nd or 3rd year of H1 and have just started GC should be considered as people who will benefit from this effort. They may not realize it now, but sooner or later they would.
Download the flyer from "Resources" menu and spend an afternoon outside local indian temple or indian grocery store. Ask people to take a copy and politely say "this is for information...I am not selling you anything" -- so that they dont discard it away and at least read it. Many of people either dont know about retrogression or dont know about immigration voice that is acting to curb retrogression and labor backlogs. Out of 500,000, if we can reach 10%, its still 50,000. With 50,000 members, the possibilites of what we can achieve is sending 10,000 volts thru my spine.
GIDDY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
Logiclife.
Please remember to ask your other H1B friends to sign up and convince them to contribute. One person can only contribute so much but one can always ask co-workers and friends to sign up. Even those who are in their 2nd or 3rd year of H1 and have just started GC should be considered as people who will benefit from this effort. They may not realize it now, but sooner or later they would.
Download the flyer from "Resources" menu and spend an afternoon outside local indian temple or indian grocery store. Ask people to take a copy and politely say "this is for information...I am not selling you anything" -- so that they dont discard it away and at least read it. Many of people either dont know about retrogression or dont know about immigration voice that is acting to curb retrogression and labor backlogs. Out of 500,000, if we can reach 10%, its still 50,000. With 50,000 members, the possibilites of what we can achieve is sending 10,000 volts thru my spine.
GIDDY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
Logiclife.
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bheemi
04-03 10:08 AM
I am suprprised if IV is working towards abiltiy to file 485 and hard country limit...Just want to know how IV is working towards these 2 items...
If any of these two wont show out in coming bill,..then I would say goodbye to IV..because all other items in bill were there without IV;s interaction....
Can somebody calrify if these options will anyway include in this bill..by means of ammendements...
If any of these two wont show out in coming bill,..then I would say goodbye to IV..because all other items in bill were there without IV;s interaction....
Can somebody calrify if these options will anyway include in this bill..by means of ammendements...
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WithoutGCAmigo
06-18 11:40 AM
Do they have a rule that an interim EAD has to be issued in 90 days???
Looks like USICS wants extra money for EAD and APO also ..They may come out with a Premium Processing route
Looks like USICS wants extra money for EAD and APO also ..They may come out with a Premium Processing route
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ksvreg
03-26 03:42 PM
Lets the math not to be either rocket science or a dice figure from broken system.
Lets figure out how many pending and how systems works and request the agency to monitor it. Once the strategy in place, we can rely on it and can wait for years based on our PD with a close accurate (99%) assumption.
Lets figure out how many pending and how systems works and request the agency to monitor it. Once the strategy in place, we can rely on it and can wait for years based on our PD with a close accurate (99%) assumption.
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kevin08
03-26 03:23 PM
"Retrogression" is the word for the rest of the year for EB3 (I). Learn it, Leave it (eat it, sleep it, drink it - whichever way you want it).
How about Dec. 2000 EB3-I for incoming bulletin? Then "Retrogression at will" as we move forward for the rest of the year. Now don't ask me how because anything is possible with (fill in the blanks).
How about Dec. 2000 EB3-I for incoming bulletin? Then "Retrogression at will" as we move forward for the rest of the year. Now don't ask me how because anything is possible with (fill in the blanks).
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McLuvin
04-07 05:26 PM
Yeah.. thats good...
Just another proof.... we guys never give up... :D
It does not matter if its 2moro or the day after or next week...
Kuch milega kya??
BR
Just another proof.... we guys never give up... :D
It does not matter if its 2moro or the day after or next week...
Kuch milega kya??
BR
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gconmymind
08-27 03:11 PM
Per my attorney and several forums i researched a second FP Is generally sent when your case is about ready to be approved and normally a good sign as they can approve GC and ask for FP after that before sending you cards. However in one forum i found someone posted a DHS release from 2007 describing the FP data is switched to digital storage in a system called BSS and will remain valid for 75 years, thus one theory says that if your first FP was done digitally you may not need second FO and IO can access the results of first FP and approve. But who knows what is true, all of these are speculations.
I have not got second FP notice either and my first and only FP happened in Nov 2007.
I got a 2nd FP notice for 485. I will be current next month. I also applied for AP last month, which got approved yesterday. Not sure if AP application triggerred the FP notice or if there is a chance I can get approved next month??
I have not got second FP notice either and my first and only FP happened in Nov 2007.
I got a 2nd FP notice for 485. I will be current next month. I also applied for AP last month, which got approved yesterday. Not sure if AP application triggerred the FP notice or if there is a chance I can get approved next month??
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chanduv23
02-23 02:05 PM
Assuming that AC21 documentation does reach my file, is there any harm in it?
I am not sure, but I have heard that most cases go through just fine because AC21 protects you, but only when ex employer withdraws the support for 140, some officers may want to ascertain that the new job is satisfying AC21 criteria and may ask foer more information than that was provided - now all this is based on what people talk about in the forums and on my discussions with people, as such, if you are doing everything by law there should not be any issue
I am not sure, but I have heard that most cases go through just fine because AC21 protects you, but only when ex employer withdraws the support for 140, some officers may want to ascertain that the new job is satisfying AC21 criteria and may ask foer more information than that was provided - now all this is based on what people talk about in the forums and on my discussions with people, as such, if you are doing everything by law there should not be any issue
lotres
11-09 08:37 AM
Thanks pt326bc!
Interesting and informative info and a great Holiday to celebrate for everyone!
Happy Diwali!
Interesting and informative info and a great Holiday to celebrate for everyone!
Happy Diwali!
fide_champ
09-15 11:22 AM
I agree that it's really a personal choice. It's quite risky in this economy with housing prices going down. It needs a lot of reasearch and lot of thinking before you can make that decision. I don't think surveying people will help because there's lots of personal factors that can play a role in making that decision. Maybe it may help to listen to different people's decision making process. Having GC is a factor but it's not the only limiting factor. I know a lot of people who bought homes much before they filed the i-485 and i know few others who didn't and you can't blame them for their decisions.
For the record, i bought my home in 2008 and i must admit that owning a home is one of the nicer things i did in this country. We and the kids love the extra space and the luxury. My kids will be going to public school next year so will be making full use of the taxes we pay.
If you have a stable job, IMO you can buy a home and i bet you won't regret that decision. But stable job is as hard as finding a treasure these days.
For the record, i bought my home in 2008 and i must admit that owning a home is one of the nicer things i did in this country. We and the kids love the extra space and the luxury. My kids will be going to public school next year so will be making full use of the taxes we pay.
If you have a stable job, IMO you can buy a home and i bet you won't regret that decision. But stable job is as hard as finding a treasure these days.
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