aadimanav
07-17 07:58 PM
Thanks aadimanav,
I have emailed & faxed Rep. Henry Waxman, CA 30th District
Also 2 legislators here - Senator Sheila Kuehl and Senator Mark Ridley Thomas
Come on Peeple. The time is NOW.
In title you mentioned "los angeles" but you havne't sent to Senators from CA.
I have emailed & faxed Rep. Henry Waxman, CA 30th District
Also 2 legislators here - Senator Sheila Kuehl and Senator Mark Ridley Thomas
Come on Peeple. The time is NOW.
In title you mentioned "los angeles" but you havne't sent to Senators from CA.
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Time of signing the contract also is very important. If you signed the contract after H1 transfer or joining the assignment will not have much impact. Because you signed that contract under pressure or without any option. Also any unpaid time (bench) is plus point for you. You can extract that money from them easily after leaving the company. Recently there was such case in NJ.
I think before joining any of these companies, as an employee we should ask these questions with out any hesitation. Before joining, these employers will talk very friendly. That point we can not ask below questions because employer looks like a friend.
1) Conditions leaving the company.
We should also agree for reasonable conditions. I think 6 months is reasonable. By that time they make their expenses.
We should make it very clear that we are not going to stay with the company as bonded labor.
2) GC Process. Attorney. Documentation.
We should be very clear on what happens if you leave the company before getting GC.
Will you get the paper work (Labor, I 140 copies) as soon they are approved?
Transparency. Control over the process
Can you have your own lawyer?
3) Joining the client where you are working?
most of us finding projects/clients on our own. There is nothing employer is doing to find these clients. What are the terms. In these difficult situations clients may not be ready to pay head hunting fee to middle company and your employer.
4) Payment.
When and how will we get paid?
Even I did not ask these questions before joining. But moving forward I would like to ask these questions.
Hello Guys,
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
I think before joining any of these companies, as an employee we should ask these questions with out any hesitation. Before joining, these employers will talk very friendly. That point we can not ask below questions because employer looks like a friend.
1) Conditions leaving the company.
We should also agree for reasonable conditions. I think 6 months is reasonable. By that time they make their expenses.
We should make it very clear that we are not going to stay with the company as bonded labor.
2) GC Process. Attorney. Documentation.
We should be very clear on what happens if you leave the company before getting GC.
Will you get the paper work (Labor, I 140 copies) as soon they are approved?
Transparency. Control over the process
Can you have your own lawyer?
3) Joining the client where you are working?
most of us finding projects/clients on our own. There is nothing employer is doing to find these clients. What are the terms. In these difficult situations clients may not be ready to pay head hunting fee to middle company and your employer.
4) Payment.
When and how will we get paid?
Even I did not ask these questions before joining. But moving forward I would like to ask these questions.
Hello Guys,
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
nlssubbu
08-23 05:43 PM
I didn't think my answers were making fun or teasing anyone - sorry if you felt that way, I didn't mean them to be interpreted like that.
The main problem is that no one really knows for sure whether these steps are taken in sequence. There is little to no transparency. There are procedures, but we can not guarantee that they are followed.
To answer your second part. No, I don't believe there are any standard updates that indicate this, but I could be wrong. I think that there is an update if you clear it, but not if you are stuck in it. Make sense? Pappu has an excellent post that details the name check process http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12000
To answer nlssubbu with the query about the "pre-approval" - I don't think it is a 1 time thing. Its a fairly standard USCIS practice. I have a link somewhere to the IO AOS processing manual. If I can find it I'll post it here.
Do I think they have enough resources to process them all? Absolutely not, but I doubt there will be a rush considering PDs won't be current for a while (esp eb3)
For the past so many years of observing various forums and information, I did not come across the situation of pre-approval process except this time. I am sure that they will be doing various background checks to make the application ready for approval. It is not mentioned any where that how the pre-approval process is different from background checks? Are they the same or different? What processes are done during approval? I do not have any idea and hence I would like to keep the various checks and approval process separate.
If you say 'pre-approval' is to complete all the checks required the case of approval, then why they issue a notification regarding a 'pre-approval' in visa bulletine?
I hope someone will provide some information regarding these clarifications.
Thanks
The main problem is that no one really knows for sure whether these steps are taken in sequence. There is little to no transparency. There are procedures, but we can not guarantee that they are followed.
To answer your second part. No, I don't believe there are any standard updates that indicate this, but I could be wrong. I think that there is an update if you clear it, but not if you are stuck in it. Make sense? Pappu has an excellent post that details the name check process http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12000
To answer nlssubbu with the query about the "pre-approval" - I don't think it is a 1 time thing. Its a fairly standard USCIS practice. I have a link somewhere to the IO AOS processing manual. If I can find it I'll post it here.
Do I think they have enough resources to process them all? Absolutely not, but I doubt there will be a rush considering PDs won't be current for a while (esp eb3)
For the past so many years of observing various forums and information, I did not come across the situation of pre-approval process except this time. I am sure that they will be doing various background checks to make the application ready for approval. It is not mentioned any where that how the pre-approval process is different from background checks? Are they the same or different? What processes are done during approval? I do not have any idea and hence I would like to keep the various checks and approval process separate.
If you say 'pre-approval' is to complete all the checks required the case of approval, then why they issue a notification regarding a 'pre-approval' in visa bulletine?
I hope someone will provide some information regarding these clarifications.
Thanks
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You were the first one to report this bulletin which brought good news to me as i am now able to file I-485. Give you green.
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06-19 01:02 AM
You dont need an EAD, if you still have valid H1. AC21 has nothing to do with EAD. However, if your H1 is expiring soon, and you have already used up 6 years of H1, you would need an EAD, because H1 extension beyond 6 years is available only for people who cant file I485 because of retrogression.
-Niranjan
If you don't need EAD to use AC21 whats the use of EAD for the primary applicant?
I was not planning to change company and just filed my 485 without EAD last week. But now situation has changed and the lawyer said i need EAD if i want to use AC21 after 6 months. I'm hoping to get a receipt notice soon so that i can file for EAD without the increased fees. Anybody has any link to where it says we don't need EAD for AC21 so i can check with my lawyer?
-Niranjan
If you don't need EAD to use AC21 whats the use of EAD for the primary applicant?
I was not planning to change company and just filed my 485 without EAD last week. But now situation has changed and the lawyer said i need EAD if i want to use AC21 after 6 months. I'm hoping to get a receipt notice soon so that i can file for EAD without the increased fees. Anybody has any link to where it says we don't need EAD for AC21 so i can check with my lawyer?
ns007
04-16 01:53 PM
I don't think the threads on IV should only be related to GC retrogression. Yes, retrogression is the primary objective of IV. But, there are other threads on IV that are related to non-retrogression issues and, are very informative like threads on 401K etc. Anything related to immigrants should be welcomed.
Yes, people in this forum are from all over the world. But, I don't think the intent of this thread was to offend them. I go through the threads that interest me. I am sure other members do the same.
Let the thread itself decide its worthiness.
Yes, people in this forum are from all over the world. But, I don't think the intent of this thread was to offend them. I go through the threads that interest me. I am sure other members do the same.
Let the thread itself decide its worthiness.
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Greetings! I have been watching the flower campaign after I got the email last night in IV news letter. While We are extremely happy getting the media coverage we needed, we are ignoring one thing. There is one more important issue that we are missing here. USINPAC is rapidly claiming that they are behind this whole thing. This is more than plaigarism. some of you might say that this is not some thing as we should be considered about media attention as our primary issue amidst of this whole thing, but this can come back hurting if USINPAC starts claiming the credit in more sites. If they go beyond the cliff, they will do their own press release to claim credit and it gets more messier at that point. If you look at their press releases, they clearly denied us any credit by refering to the org as Emigration voice. I am positive reporters across the worls know the difference between Immigration and Emigration and whether people from India immigrate to US or emigrate to US. I feel that this is deliberately denying any google search for IV
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070710/48/6hwnn.html
I am going to call them first thing tomorrow morning and explain them to clearly give credit to Immigration Voice (with clear spelling) for the flower campaign. Other wise, may be we should consider doing a press release on the same. We do not need to get impolite with them and use harsh words. We can convey one single message like we did today with the flower campaign. Hopefully some one like logiclife/pappu can come up with one consistent message to be delivered when we call USINPAC
http://in.news.yahoo.com/070710/48/6hwnn.html
I am going to call them first thing tomorrow morning and explain them to clearly give credit to Immigration Voice (with clear spelling) for the flower campaign. Other wise, may be we should consider doing a press release on the same. We do not need to get impolite with them and use harsh words. We can convey one single message like we did today with the flower campaign. Hopefully some one like logiclife/pappu can come up with one consistent message to be delivered when we call USINPAC
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sanjeev_2004
08-22 10:42 PM
Not quite, as I understand it, if your PD is not current, your AOS will continue processing and will eventually get to a "approved, pending visa number" state. You can pretty much be in this state for some time, and then when PD does become current (as happened from May through July this year with the significant shift in PDs in the bulletins) there will be a massive approval rate of all those pending applications.
USCIS doesn't stop the application process just because your PD is no longer current
This is how USCIS got through 60k unused visas in a staggeringly short time. There were a LOT of applications that were ready to go, they were just waiting for those numbers. USCIS didn't all of a suddenly quadruple their efficiency in processing :)
"pending visa number" situation never possible now becuase there are sufficient I485 with old pds. PD is base after that every thing is luck.
USCIS doesn't stop the application process just because your PD is no longer current
This is how USCIS got through 60k unused visas in a staggeringly short time. There were a LOT of applications that were ready to go, they were just waiting for those numbers. USCIS didn't all of a suddenly quadruple their efficiency in processing :)
"pending visa number" situation never possible now becuase there are sufficient I485 with old pds. PD is base after that every thing is luck.
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Sorry to hear this. Regarding medical insurance, your company has to offer you COBRA..you will end up paying almost twice the premium that you have been paying so far, but it would still be better than you footing the delivery charges (10k - 25K). Continue CORBA atleast till the deliver and post-partum - for as long as possible..
Terminating you in your ninth month pregnancy is probably against the law, i think if you can prove it, you might be able to sue your employer, check your local state laws..
Good luck..!
Terminating you in your ninth month pregnancy is probably against the law, i think if you can prove it, you might be able to sue your employer, check your local state laws..
Good luck..!
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desi3933
02-02 02:19 PM
Thanks for the reply , let me file the H1 transfer with Employer2 now in "Premium route" with the I-140 approval from Employer1 and see if we get a approval. Once i get a approval , i think stamping it wont be an issue after 7-8 months even thought Employer1 has revoked that I-140 ?
However i want to clear even if the Employer1 revokes this I-140 my PD still remains locked - right ???
This is not clear for retaining a priority date when I-140 is revoked. As per a US CIS memorandum, when I-140 is revoked for misrepresentation or fraud, person won't be able to carry the PD over. On the other hand, there are regulations that state that beneficiary would no longer be able to carry over the priority date in the event of I-140 being revoked.
Please note that the memorandum does not have the force of law.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
However i want to clear even if the Employer1 revokes this I-140 my PD still remains locked - right ???
This is not clear for retaining a priority date when I-140 is revoked. As per a US CIS memorandum, when I-140 is revoked for misrepresentation or fraud, person won't be able to carry the PD over. On the other hand, there are regulations that state that beneficiary would no longer be able to carry over the priority date in the event of I-140 being revoked.
Please note that the memorandum does not have the force of law.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
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dilipb
06-23 11:15 PM
I alos filed EAD renewal and Receipt came very fast. within 7 days. However when I enter case# on USCIS website, It says Case not Found
Do I need to worry about it ? Or Need to wait for couple of weeks?
Please advice.
Thanks
I am sure u must be typing correct.But.
On the uscis case staus site one has to type the receipt number which is either a SRC or LIN number. Make sure u dont type the hypens.
If u are typing correctly then just wait for a few days. Dont worry.
Last year we did see that there was a huge delay between actual check cashing, actual physical reciept in hand and the USCIS site was not updated at all. Happens a lot of times. Give yourself about 1-2 weeks and call USCIS.
Do I need to worry about it ? Or Need to wait for couple of weeks?
Please advice.
Thanks
I am sure u must be typing correct.But.
On the uscis case staus site one has to type the receipt number which is either a SRC or LIN number. Make sure u dont type the hypens.
If u are typing correctly then just wait for a few days. Dont worry.
Last year we did see that there was a huge delay between actual check cashing, actual physical reciept in hand and the USCIS site was not updated at all. Happens a lot of times. Give yourself about 1-2 weeks and call USCIS.
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05-28 04:57 PM
Good points, only thing to add is not all innovations can be brought to notice to relate to a single employee ...most of the times we as employees are part of systemic effort that is innovating. It would be wrong to say that H1-bs are not contributing towards innovation ........
Good point. Very rarely can an invention be attributed to a single person. These days it is invariably a group effort.
By the way, why are we deviating?
Good point. Very rarely can an invention be attributed to a single person. These days it is invariably a group effort.
By the way, why are we deviating?
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can you post the address that you sent to ? I am planning to do the same too. I will attach an email from the travel agent for loss of money if i cancel my tickets.
Guys,
I efiled my AP on 9/5/10 @NSC and it was approved today after requesting expediting on 10/5/10 based on financial loss, I have a business transaction back home for which i need to be present and provided all supporting documentation related to that.
This is what is think is more effective than contacting senators/Ombudsman for expediting, resend all the I-131 supporting documentation,proof of emergency/loss, 2 photos and include a cover letter with bold colorful fonts requesting expediting to the same address you sent your app earlier (btw, i used the USCIS center courier address and not PO Box address), i believe this way your app goes to the officer quicker and he has all the documents needed to approve your case right away if you qualify for expediting, i have used this process more than once and know it works at least for me....you have tried other methods, why not try this as well!
Good Luck!
Guys,
I efiled my AP on 9/5/10 @NSC and it was approved today after requesting expediting on 10/5/10 based on financial loss, I have a business transaction back home for which i need to be present and provided all supporting documentation related to that.
This is what is think is more effective than contacting senators/Ombudsman for expediting, resend all the I-131 supporting documentation,proof of emergency/loss, 2 photos and include a cover letter with bold colorful fonts requesting expediting to the same address you sent your app earlier (btw, i used the USCIS center courier address and not PO Box address), i believe this way your app goes to the officer quicker and he has all the documents needed to approve your case right away if you qualify for expediting, i have used this process more than once and know it works at least for me....you have tried other methods, why not try this as well!
Good Luck!
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10-25 07:43 AM
I received my EAD last month. But no AP yet. However, i received an email from my lawyer today that.....my AP got rejected. The rejection letter is saying that I485 got approved that's why the I131 is rejected.....therefore, my lawyer is waiting for the I485 approval.....but my lawyer told me that I can expect my card soon.
I don't know how to react. The online doesn't have any update about the I485 status yet. They received my application on July 2, 2007.
You signature shows like
Labor approved May 06
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007)
I-485 Applied Jun 29,2007...Received Receipt on July 31, 2007
Status - Pending
but how it is possible
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007).
currently 140 processing dates around Nov/dec-06.
Are you trying to play with people feelings?
I don't know how to react. The online doesn't have any update about the I485 status yet. They received my application on July 2, 2007.
You signature shows like
Labor approved May 06
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007)
I-485 Applied Jun 29,2007...Received Receipt on July 31, 2007
Status - Pending
but how it is possible
I-140 Applied Feb 8, 2007 (Approved Sep 18, 2007).
currently 140 processing dates around Nov/dec-06.
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Thanks Nrk.. infact we got our approval email this morning. We had two sets of I-485 applications..my wife's date of Oct 2005 was earlier which got approved today. Thanks again.
Thanks Nrk.. infact we got our approval email this morning. We had two sets of I-485 applications..my wife's date of Oct 2005 was earlier which got approved today. Thanks again.
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well i dont know if they actually said that or its your own conclusions
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/H-1B_BFCA_20sep08.pdf
It is important to note that for this particular sample size of 246 cases, the percentages listed above represent statistically valid figures based on generally accepted statistical reporting guidelines.
without the number of student intake doubling/trembling up to make it one
The number of foreign students has definitely increased since then. The quota is not that
big, so even a small increase like say 10% in the number of foreign students is enough to
swamp the quota.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-11-16-foreign-students_N.htm
These numbers are truly historic," says Goli Ameri, assistant secretary of State for educational and cultural affairs. "We haven't just covered lost ground � we have now surpassed" previous records.
Plus more than enrollment, it is the economy that governs how soon the quota is reached. In my experience, the economy
showed good growth after 2005, which understandably led to increased hiring.
again i dont know if thats what the anti-immi's complain
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/Archive/FraudNotTheIssue.txt
The employers will still be paying only the official prevailing wage, which is far
below the real market wage, and it will be business as usual. Again, this is the
loopholes at work, in this case in the legal definition of prevailing wage. Most
employers who are using H-1Bs as cheap labor are doing so FULLY LEGALLY.
The true rate of abuse of the H-1B program is near 100%.
THE FRAUD ISSUE IS IRRELEVANT
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/H-1B_BFCA_20sep08.pdf
It is important to note that for this particular sample size of 246 cases, the percentages listed above represent statistically valid figures based on generally accepted statistical reporting guidelines.
without the number of student intake doubling/trembling up to make it one
The number of foreign students has definitely increased since then. The quota is not that
big, so even a small increase like say 10% in the number of foreign students is enough to
swamp the quota.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2008-11-16-foreign-students_N.htm
These numbers are truly historic," says Goli Ameri, assistant secretary of State for educational and cultural affairs. "We haven't just covered lost ground � we have now surpassed" previous records.
Plus more than enrollment, it is the economy that governs how soon the quota is reached. In my experience, the economy
showed good growth after 2005, which understandably led to increased hiring.
again i dont know if thats what the anti-immi's complain
http://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~matloff/Archive/FraudNotTheIssue.txt
The employers will still be paying only the official prevailing wage, which is far
below the real market wage, and it will be business as usual. Again, this is the
loopholes at work, in this case in the legal definition of prevailing wage. Most
employers who are using H-1Bs as cheap labor are doing so FULLY LEGALLY.
The true rate of abuse of the H-1B program is near 100%.
THE FRAUD ISSUE IS IRRELEVANT
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There are no bills being discussed. House as well as senate are on recess and will convine after Sept 10th. After it reconvenes, between 10th sept and Oct 8th - it has a lot of tasks at hand, and no apetite for any big and controversial issues like immigration. Mid term elections are in early nov and nobody wants controversial bills debated just before that. Morover it has been made clear that GOP does not want any immigration bills except "fencing the border". Democrats do not have required votes for cloture.
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 � September 12
Senate August 9 � September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
no please donot do that there shouldnt be any recapture
So, nothing is going to happen on the immigration front- legislatively untill after nov elections. Attitudes towards this issue will change and more GOP Lawmakers wil favor talking about this after. It will be a different ball-game depending on who keeps the majority. In the lame-duck there might be a chance.
August/Labor Day Recess
House - August 9 � September 12
Senate August 9 � September 10
Target Adjournment:
House - October 8
Senate - TBD
So, between now and the lame-duck session, if we can educate lawmakers- especially now- since they are comming back home and to their constituents in the recess. Most of them have town-hall meetings arranged and want to hear from their constituents. It will be good to make ourselves visible and heard.
no please donot do that there shouldnt be any recapture
lazycis
12-31 10:42 AM
dont want to judge ur sentiments, but think about this.
if GOD only cares abt people who constantly praises god, then muslim countries should do way way better :D they pray so many times a day. nobody follows religion and GOD like muslims do :D, not even hard core christians :D. even hindus pray a lot. US growth is clearly not due to the things u mentioned :D. its due to their relentless pursuit of growth. along with GOD US also believes in 'free will'. btw, i am not atheist, but just AGNOSTIC.
How can you judge God's intentions when you don't know Him? Can you prove that God does not exist?
Here are some facts from the American history about God's protection over this land:
During July/August 1776 the British sailed some 450 warships and support ships into the New York Harbor to quell the rebellion in the Colonies. These ships contained some 32,000 troops (British and Hessians) as well as 10,000 seamen. This was one or the largest armadas ever assembled in the New World. This awesome sight caused alarm among the citizens of New York and the 20,000 rag-tag citizen army gathered to defend their freedoms.
"And there had been an incident that deeply troubled the German soldiers. On a hot August night, just before they went into action, hundreds of British and Germans had sat around an enormous bonfire, laughing and cheering while four rebel leaders were burned in effigy. The figures of John Witherspoon, President of the College at Princeton, and ' Generals Washington, Israel Putman, and Charles Lee had just been set afire when a wild thunderstorm suddenly interrupted the fun."
'The soldiers dashed for whatever shelter they could find, and after the rain had passed, some of the men returned to the vicinity of the bonfire to discover that three of the dummies had been consumed by the flames but the effigy of George Washington remained intact, as good as it ever was. The symbolism was not lost on the foreigners; as a British deserter relayed the story, the incident caused a great deal of fear among the Hessian troops, most of whom are very superstitious."
Within twenty-four hours of the bonfire incident, an attack was launched against Washington and his troops on Long Island. The results of which gave the Hessians even more to ponder. The British naval forces attempted to sail up the Long Island sound where they would unload some of their forces and then launch an attack on land, placing Washington and his forces in a pincer trap. However for 24 hours they were unable to sail their ships up the sound because of high winds and waves. Not to be deterred by this they went ahead and launched their land forces and started their advance up Long Island confident that within several days "this ugly little conflict would be over." By dusk they had driven the Americans and beaten them to the point that the British Commander felt that, "On the morrow he would quickly and decisively end the conflict."
The British could hear the Americans digging their trenches and setting their camps since the prevailing wind was in their favor. However, later in the evening the winds reversed and allowed the Americans to hear the British. Then it started to rain and later that evening a dense fog settled over Long Island. (In August?) Washington had earlier recognized the potential dilemma and requested that boats be gathered in preparation for a retreat should it prove necessary. After the fog settled in, Washington's troops, animals and hardware were ferried across the sound to New York under the cover of the dense fog without being detected. This was done in spite of the fact that they were within shouting distance of the British and Hessians. Early the next morning the British started their advance, only to discover that the rebels had successfully moved out under cover of the fog and darkness. It is hard to imagine a more visible demonstration of Providence's hand than all the incidents surrounding this event.
(The Winter Soldiers, by Richard M. Ketchum, 1973, pp; 107-110)
if GOD only cares abt people who constantly praises god, then muslim countries should do way way better :D they pray so many times a day. nobody follows religion and GOD like muslims do :D, not even hard core christians :D. even hindus pray a lot. US growth is clearly not due to the things u mentioned :D. its due to their relentless pursuit of growth. along with GOD US also believes in 'free will'. btw, i am not atheist, but just AGNOSTIC.
How can you judge God's intentions when you don't know Him? Can you prove that God does not exist?
Here are some facts from the American history about God's protection over this land:
During July/August 1776 the British sailed some 450 warships and support ships into the New York Harbor to quell the rebellion in the Colonies. These ships contained some 32,000 troops (British and Hessians) as well as 10,000 seamen. This was one or the largest armadas ever assembled in the New World. This awesome sight caused alarm among the citizens of New York and the 20,000 rag-tag citizen army gathered to defend their freedoms.
"And there had been an incident that deeply troubled the German soldiers. On a hot August night, just before they went into action, hundreds of British and Germans had sat around an enormous bonfire, laughing and cheering while four rebel leaders were burned in effigy. The figures of John Witherspoon, President of the College at Princeton, and ' Generals Washington, Israel Putman, and Charles Lee had just been set afire when a wild thunderstorm suddenly interrupted the fun."
'The soldiers dashed for whatever shelter they could find, and after the rain had passed, some of the men returned to the vicinity of the bonfire to discover that three of the dummies had been consumed by the flames but the effigy of George Washington remained intact, as good as it ever was. The symbolism was not lost on the foreigners; as a British deserter relayed the story, the incident caused a great deal of fear among the Hessian troops, most of whom are very superstitious."
Within twenty-four hours of the bonfire incident, an attack was launched against Washington and his troops on Long Island. The results of which gave the Hessians even more to ponder. The British naval forces attempted to sail up the Long Island sound where they would unload some of their forces and then launch an attack on land, placing Washington and his forces in a pincer trap. However for 24 hours they were unable to sail their ships up the sound because of high winds and waves. Not to be deterred by this they went ahead and launched their land forces and started their advance up Long Island confident that within several days "this ugly little conflict would be over." By dusk they had driven the Americans and beaten them to the point that the British Commander felt that, "On the morrow he would quickly and decisively end the conflict."
The British could hear the Americans digging their trenches and setting their camps since the prevailing wind was in their favor. However, later in the evening the winds reversed and allowed the Americans to hear the British. Then it started to rain and later that evening a dense fog settled over Long Island. (In August?) Washington had earlier recognized the potential dilemma and requested that boats be gathered in preparation for a retreat should it prove necessary. After the fog settled in, Washington's troops, animals and hardware were ferried across the sound to New York under the cover of the dense fog without being detected. This was done in spite of the fact that they were within shouting distance of the British and Hessians. Early the next morning the British started their advance, only to discover that the rebels had successfully moved out under cover of the fog and darkness. It is hard to imagine a more visible demonstration of Providence's hand than all the incidents surrounding this event.
(The Winter Soldiers, by Richard M. Ketchum, 1973, pp; 107-110)
chakalov
09-11 04:54 PM
Dont worry. In July we'll all be current again.
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