svn
04-07 10:50 AM
this poll is a good idea to understand what most of the members expect from CORE....
....this is a grass-roots organization and any highly skilled legal immigrant should be able to donate $25
Great point praveenuppaluri. But let's face reality for a moment - as several senior members routinely point out, inspite of our organization having several thousand "highly paid" members, the "donor" base is very limited. As Zen says in a truly Zen manner "we are where we are"...and we have to figure out where to go from here. Unquestionably, I am really thankful to our highly dedicated Core team for sacrificing their personal time and making all of the efforts that have led to substantial progress over the last few years for the immigration community. However,, that with a new government in place, we now have a truly unique window of opportunity to make some progress and the question before us is how do we maximize our potential to take advantage of this? The real beauty of my proposal is that we could leverage the enormous dedication of the core team and multiply it several fold, if we could build a strong donor base that provides us the funding required to engage effective lobbyists. Needless to say the more the funding, the stronger can be our lobbying.
but I also understand that most of these lobbying efforts are done in the back ground and its not good idea to share anything in these times. who knows, may be there is an anti-immigrant lurking around (ofcourse paying $$ to become Donor, become senior member whatever) to get inside information.
.....transparancy is good as long as it doesn't hurt the cause.
It is definitely not a good idea to broadcast confidential information on strategies/plans. However, what you are referring to is the merchanics of the process of sharing updates- there are several ways in which we could implement the update process so that information is only shared to a predefined "pool" and that "donors" are first vetted before being brought into the "pool", so to speak. The way IV has currently implemented this process, of course, is through the local chapters. However, their current process is subject to lack of consistency (depending very heavily on the availability of the local chapter coordinators) and more importantly, does not take advantage of the tool that really enables us to all come together i.e. the internet. It is a paradox that an organization founded on the net and is still subjecting itself to the constraints of "physical communication" via the local chapters. I thought they were taking a step in right direction with the creation of the "Donor Forum", however, for some reason, we still seem stuck in the previous mode of operation. We can find a middle ground here that would not compromise confidentiality or our goals - one alternative (certainly not the only one I am sure) is quite simply, email updates compiled by one person (for consistency and uniform direction) that go out a distribution group, where the "donors" on the distribution list, have been vetted by the local chapter coordinators. I know this takes work, but if the Core is looking for a person to pull together a Conference Call to compile this update and send it out, I would be glad to volunteer my services.
Still I've some open issues. If you look at the poll, there isnt a single person who voted NO. We should expect to see a healthy mix of Yes,No and Dont Care. But the way the poll has been put and partly the wording, partly the current IV environment, people are sceptical of putting their real thoughts publicly. This excercise is futile if you have minimal 'NO's --- hope you are getting my point here. The only thing you might end up with is x number of YES and hope to translate the YES into more dollar value for IV and there will be some YES who are already contributing monetarily.
You are correct dilbert_cal - not a single person has explicity voted "No". In reality though, everyone who has viewed this thread (1563 views when I last checked - even if you assume each person has checked this thread at least 10 times, that's about 156 individuals out of whom only about 35 have voted so far!) and not bothered to vote is essentially voting "No"! However, again as you point out, I am not really looking for the "No"s since these people have clearly decided they don't want to part with their money at this stage (not ascribing any reasons or motives here - just stating the facts). Instead, my focus is on coalescing a group around those who voted "Yes" since they, like me, agree that they would contribute more if they received more regular updates of what is going on. Our organization just needs a little more "organization" (pun, intended :p) to make it more effective! Again, just reality but that is also the usual natural evolution of most organizations that start out as pure grassroots organizations.
I really do believe there are substantial number of folks out there who can be engaged more effectively in this process and I invite the Core Leadership team to put more thought in figuring out how to achieve this - I hope you take my suggestion constructively!
Cheers
....this is a grass-roots organization and any highly skilled legal immigrant should be able to donate $25
Great point praveenuppaluri. But let's face reality for a moment - as several senior members routinely point out, inspite of our organization having several thousand "highly paid" members, the "donor" base is very limited. As Zen says in a truly Zen manner "we are where we are"...and we have to figure out where to go from here. Unquestionably, I am really thankful to our highly dedicated Core team for sacrificing their personal time and making all of the efforts that have led to substantial progress over the last few years for the immigration community. However,, that with a new government in place, we now have a truly unique window of opportunity to make some progress and the question before us is how do we maximize our potential to take advantage of this? The real beauty of my proposal is that we could leverage the enormous dedication of the core team and multiply it several fold, if we could build a strong donor base that provides us the funding required to engage effective lobbyists. Needless to say the more the funding, the stronger can be our lobbying.
but I also understand that most of these lobbying efforts are done in the back ground and its not good idea to share anything in these times. who knows, may be there is an anti-immigrant lurking around (ofcourse paying $$ to become Donor, become senior member whatever) to get inside information.
.....transparancy is good as long as it doesn't hurt the cause.
It is definitely not a good idea to broadcast confidential information on strategies/plans. However, what you are referring to is the merchanics of the process of sharing updates- there are several ways in which we could implement the update process so that information is only shared to a predefined "pool" and that "donors" are first vetted before being brought into the "pool", so to speak. The way IV has currently implemented this process, of course, is through the local chapters. However, their current process is subject to lack of consistency (depending very heavily on the availability of the local chapter coordinators) and more importantly, does not take advantage of the tool that really enables us to all come together i.e. the internet. It is a paradox that an organization founded on the net and is still subjecting itself to the constraints of "physical communication" via the local chapters. I thought they were taking a step in right direction with the creation of the "Donor Forum", however, for some reason, we still seem stuck in the previous mode of operation. We can find a middle ground here that would not compromise confidentiality or our goals - one alternative (certainly not the only one I am sure) is quite simply, email updates compiled by one person (for consistency and uniform direction) that go out a distribution group, where the "donors" on the distribution list, have been vetted by the local chapter coordinators. I know this takes work, but if the Core is looking for a person to pull together a Conference Call to compile this update and send it out, I would be glad to volunteer my services.
Still I've some open issues. If you look at the poll, there isnt a single person who voted NO. We should expect to see a healthy mix of Yes,No and Dont Care. But the way the poll has been put and partly the wording, partly the current IV environment, people are sceptical of putting their real thoughts publicly. This excercise is futile if you have minimal 'NO's --- hope you are getting my point here. The only thing you might end up with is x number of YES and hope to translate the YES into more dollar value for IV and there will be some YES who are already contributing monetarily.
You are correct dilbert_cal - not a single person has explicity voted "No". In reality though, everyone who has viewed this thread (1563 views when I last checked - even if you assume each person has checked this thread at least 10 times, that's about 156 individuals out of whom only about 35 have voted so far!) and not bothered to vote is essentially voting "No"! However, again as you point out, I am not really looking for the "No"s since these people have clearly decided they don't want to part with their money at this stage (not ascribing any reasons or motives here - just stating the facts). Instead, my focus is on coalescing a group around those who voted "Yes" since they, like me, agree that they would contribute more if they received more regular updates of what is going on. Our organization just needs a little more "organization" (pun, intended :p) to make it more effective! Again, just reality but that is also the usual natural evolution of most organizations that start out as pure grassroots organizations.
I really do believe there are substantial number of folks out there who can be engaged more effectively in this process and I invite the Core Leadership team to put more thought in figuring out how to achieve this - I hope you take my suggestion constructively!
Cheers
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casinoroyale
07-01 04:09 PM
anyone
I think you can put a date atleast starting from when you are expected to receive the receipt notice. Once you have the notice, you could go to local USCIS office, show the receite and prove your emergent situation and request for immediate AP.
I think you can put a date atleast starting from when you are expected to receive the receipt notice. Once you have the notice, you could go to local USCIS office, show the receite and prove your emergent situation and request for immediate AP.
wellwishergc
04-03 12:00 PM
just made some additional monetary contribution to the cause.
Keep up the good work!!!
Quite frankly, I did not want to reply to your post, but your repitition above forces me to!
1) You have NO idea what it was like to find a lobbyist ready to work with us given a) We are dealing with a very sensitive issue b) We had only 10K in cash (5K raised by core members) and another 10K promised again by the core team. Do a real exercise and get a lobbyist to sign a contract with you for after revealing to them that you have only 20K. Try it now with even 50K and see how many lobbyists are ready to tow your line
2) Regarding your talk of Erin Brockovich and all, you do not even seem to grasp the fact that AILA is interested in the 11 million undocument workers. 500,000 skilled workers are nothing but a drop in the ocean compared to them.
In any case, have you done your part in contacting AILA? We have! Its easy to sit on the fence and complain but it takes conviction to actually DO something
3) Do you have any idea how difficult the task is to get amendments in? Do you know how much a fine balance the Republicans and Democrats achieved and are not ready to take on anything that might disturb the balance? Also do not forget that 500K people is not even 1% of the US population but 11 Million illegal immigrants make a sizeable chunk and alsong with Hispanics make more than 13% of the population. Now given this, who would you as a politician try to appease? 13% of the population or 0.1% of it?
4) And what made you think that faxing celebrities is an idea of the core team or QGA? Please read the posts again. It was an idea by a member!
Keep up the good work!!!
Quite frankly, I did not want to reply to your post, but your repitition above forces me to!
1) You have NO idea what it was like to find a lobbyist ready to work with us given a) We are dealing with a very sensitive issue b) We had only 10K in cash (5K raised by core members) and another 10K promised again by the core team. Do a real exercise and get a lobbyist to sign a contract with you for after revealing to them that you have only 20K. Try it now with even 50K and see how many lobbyists are ready to tow your line
2) Regarding your talk of Erin Brockovich and all, you do not even seem to grasp the fact that AILA is interested in the 11 million undocument workers. 500,000 skilled workers are nothing but a drop in the ocean compared to them.
In any case, have you done your part in contacting AILA? We have! Its easy to sit on the fence and complain but it takes conviction to actually DO something
3) Do you have any idea how difficult the task is to get amendments in? Do you know how much a fine balance the Republicans and Democrats achieved and are not ready to take on anything that might disturb the balance? Also do not forget that 500K people is not even 1% of the US population but 11 Million illegal immigrants make a sizeable chunk and alsong with Hispanics make more than 13% of the population. Now given this, who would you as a politician try to appease? 13% of the population or 0.1% of it?
4) And what made you think that faxing celebrities is an idea of the core team or QGA? Please read the posts again. It was an idea by a member!
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floridasun
01-02 07:31 PM
He called it garbage can out of bitterness and perhaps a little sarcasm. Obviously this is very important to him, otherwise he wouldn't have vented to perfect strangers on the internet. Have you never really wanted something and lashed out at it out of frustration?
Thanks Almond. At this point, I am hoping USCIS will at least allow me to change jobs (remember - I am on 7th year H1b - approved I-140, did not apply for I-485 due to retro). some members here said this is possible and some other members said I cannot do this. so I am confused if I can do this or not. If at all USCIS lets me do this, it would be great if I can find a new employer who can do EB-2. I am praying to God to help me while I try this route. I am not asking too much here... am I ?
Thanks Almond. At this point, I am hoping USCIS will at least allow me to change jobs (remember - I am on 7th year H1b - approved I-140, did not apply for I-485 due to retro). some members here said this is possible and some other members said I cannot do this. so I am confused if I can do this or not. If at all USCIS lets me do this, it would be great if I can find a new employer who can do EB-2. I am praying to God to help me while I try this route. I am not asking too much here... am I ?
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malaGCPahije
09-26 12:40 PM
hi,
i say great post! i actually was very happy in aug/sep this year and counted chicken much earlier than the eggs hatched... my eggs have not hatched... anyway, i set up an s-corp and got going... i did on my own name and with just me in it... the purpose of my s-corp was to do some non-IT work i.e. not consulting... though my day job is IT. my immigration lawyer warned me against being self employed for the GC sponsoring job... basically, if the USCIS ever becomes interested in your small business, they can ask any questions... including whether there is enough work to justify a full time employment and the burden of proof will be upon you... so if you plan to use AC21 to switch to your own company, i'd say think about it a little hard...
as for legal formalities with the state... that was a breeze... i incorporated with the state of illinois... filled out the form (2 pages). put it in the envelope with the check and sent it out... there are some other formalities too... i read the book "inc yourself" which had a bunch of easy instructions and things to watch out for... that was one amongst many books i read... did not consult any lawyer other than my immi lawyer... i use quickbooks for record keeping and have a free business checking account with national city... (i am in the midwest)... dont have cpa or lawyer yet... primarily, i want to learn the law and accounting myself before i outsource to lawyers/cpas...
all the best, let me know if i can help.. i would enjoy it...
I started an LLC earlier this year. Much easier and less risk with an LLC. It is still early to say whether the company will make it to higher grounds or not. But I sure am trying. I have me and my wife as manager members. No employees at the moment.
Best of luck to you all. GC or no GC, we can still make the entrepreneur dream happen.
i say great post! i actually was very happy in aug/sep this year and counted chicken much earlier than the eggs hatched... my eggs have not hatched... anyway, i set up an s-corp and got going... i did on my own name and with just me in it... the purpose of my s-corp was to do some non-IT work i.e. not consulting... though my day job is IT. my immigration lawyer warned me against being self employed for the GC sponsoring job... basically, if the USCIS ever becomes interested in your small business, they can ask any questions... including whether there is enough work to justify a full time employment and the burden of proof will be upon you... so if you plan to use AC21 to switch to your own company, i'd say think about it a little hard...
as for legal formalities with the state... that was a breeze... i incorporated with the state of illinois... filled out the form (2 pages). put it in the envelope with the check and sent it out... there are some other formalities too... i read the book "inc yourself" which had a bunch of easy instructions and things to watch out for... that was one amongst many books i read... did not consult any lawyer other than my immi lawyer... i use quickbooks for record keeping and have a free business checking account with national city... (i am in the midwest)... dont have cpa or lawyer yet... primarily, i want to learn the law and accounting myself before i outsource to lawyers/cpas...
all the best, let me know if i can help.. i would enjoy it...
I started an LLC earlier this year. Much easier and less risk with an LLC. It is still early to say whether the company will make it to higher grounds or not. But I sure am trying. I have me and my wife as manager members. No employees at the moment.
Best of luck to you all. GC or no GC, we can still make the entrepreneur dream happen.
krishmunn
04-20 02:24 PM
My advice to most people who do not perfectly fit into eb2 is to do the eb3 petition first (which is guaranteed to be approved). Get your place in line for the greencard.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
If it is taking too long then you can try an eb2 later; if it gets approved then you will get the old priority date. If it doesn't; well you can say you tried but you didn't lost your place in line for the greencard because you still have the old eb3 in place.
However, if your cases is not clear for eb2 and you try this first and it gets denied then you will lose valuable time in line for the greencard because you have to start from the beginning.
Since, last august DOL has become weird with even approving eb3 labors. Generally, attornies will put language in the eta 9089 that they will accept three years of experience for each year of bachelors degree missing (this is in line with education evaluators and uscis).
However, this isn't the same criteria DOL uses. They will state that if a person doesn't have a degree then you are willing to accept 12 years of experience which is excessive and they deny the labor (before they were giving hard time to eb2 but not it is eb3 that they are after). So now we have an issue that DOL criteria is different then uscis critera. You use dol criteria, labor gets approved but 140 gets denied. Use uscis criteria and labor gets denied. Now, everyone has to adjust and file eb3 labors as skilled workers and only require two years of experience (it's getting more and more messy)
The 3 year experience = 1 year education towards degree is used for H1 NOT for GC. It has never been for GC.
For EB3 GC, there is a classification for skilled workers which do not require a degree.
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H1bslave
11-08 10:55 AM
I work for Fortune 100 company and we are celebrating Diwali on Friday. There are flyers on all the corners and are expecting more than 500 co-workers for pot-luck lunch. And the best part, organizer and main activists are non-Indian. So its just another festival in the mix that everybody is looking to enjoy. This is our first gathering followed by 4-5 more before end of the year.
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superdoc
09-24 07:56 AM
Hi,
The notice doesn't say that I-485 was denied. for I-140, it says notice of Automatic revocation. For I-485 it says Acknowledgement of withdrawl. It looks to me that my previous desi employer actually withdrawn the I-485 application and thats the reason it says the I-140 is automatically revoked.. But how can they withdraw my I-485 application ?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
did you file a new g-28? if not do that right away..maybe they denied accidentally
I think MTR will be successful in your case..it will just be a few anxious weeks...
Remember worst case scenario..go back to INDIA which I think is not too bad as a software engineer !! Cheer up...
DESI employers are the biggest dousche bags around..i have decided that I will not work for another desi
The notice doesn't say that I-485 was denied. for I-140, it says notice of Automatic revocation. For I-485 it says Acknowledgement of withdrawl. It looks to me that my previous desi employer actually withdrawn the I-485 application and thats the reason it says the I-140 is automatically revoked.. But how can they withdraw my I-485 application ?
Thanks in advance for your reply.
did you file a new g-28? if not do that right away..maybe they denied accidentally
I think MTR will be successful in your case..it will just be a few anxious weeks...
Remember worst case scenario..go back to INDIA which I think is not too bad as a software engineer !! Cheer up...
DESI employers are the biggest dousche bags around..i have decided that I will not work for another desi
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Madhuri
09-15 12:02 PM
I agree with Mihir. It is your life and you have to be always plan for the worst case scenarios, especially when we (legal immigrants) do not have any god father.
First and foremost, if you lose a job, it doesn't matter what your immigration status, life is going to become difficult for you and your dependents.
I lost my job in the 7th year of H1 but since I had well researched and planned for that scenerio before entering into the 7th year, I am still here in a new job with an anticipated 3 year extension from 2007-2010.
If a lobor from your previous job has been pending for more than 365 days, you are able to port the benefit of the 7+ year extensions to the new job. This will let you survive the 7th year job loss.
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First and foremost, if you lose a job, it doesn't matter what your immigration status, life is going to become difficult for you and your dependents.
I lost my job in the 7th year of H1 but since I had well researched and planned for that scenerio before entering into the 7th year, I am still here in a new job with an anticipated 3 year extension from 2007-2010.
If a lobor from your previous job has been pending for more than 365 days, you are able to port the benefit of the 7+ year extensions to the new job. This will let you survive the 7th year job loss.
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somegchuh
10-17 05:17 PM
Honestly, I am tired too. I have canadian PR but I am not even sure if I want to go there now and start afresh there. Maybe I should think about semi/retirement in India too.
Gar Gar ki yahi kahani, ( it's typical story for any immigrant family),
main issue for us now we had invested so much time on this f** GC, we can't bail out now, feel like we are so close,
for myself I don't have that much energy left in me to go back to start allover in India, worest case scenario I just want to stay couple of more years and save as much as possible and go back to India for semi/retirement
Gar Gar ki yahi kahani, ( it's typical story for any immigrant family),
main issue for us now we had invested so much time on this f** GC, we can't bail out now, feel like we are so close,
for myself I don't have that much energy left in me to go back to start allover in India, worest case scenario I just want to stay couple of more years and save as much as possible and go back to India for semi/retirement
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helix
06-13 04:32 PM
We need more folks to voice their opinion and let the MSNBC readers know about the situation. Go ahead and post here:MSNBC Forum (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=1042&threadid=314286)
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ascetic
04-21 03:29 PM
Mother fucker I am not married and I dont have kids.
And I thought I should give the forum website a visit in the afternoon during my tea break to see in what sort of disarray it is in. Not surprised, I am not surprised. :(
And I thought I should give the forum website a visit in the afternoon during my tea break to see in what sort of disarray it is in. Not surprised, I am not surprised. :(
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bobzibub
05-21 03:29 PM
Interesting ritual one has to follow :)
1. Copy the link on your clip-board (highlight and Ctrl+C). E.g., the following is the link for TSC
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
2. Close *all* your browser windows. Perhaps you might want to open the task manager and kill the "process tree". But simply closing *all* the browser windows was sufficient in my system.
3. Open your browser. Paste the link (Ctrl+v) on the browser and voila!
They could be using some distributed web caching like akamai.
Cheers,
-b
1. Copy the link on your clip-board (highlight and Ctrl+C). E.g., the following is the link for TSC
https://egov.uscis.gov/cris/jsps/Processtimes.jsp?SeviceCenter=TSC
2. Close *all* your browser windows. Perhaps you might want to open the task manager and kill the "process tree". But simply closing *all* the browser windows was sufficient in my system.
3. Open your browser. Paste the link (Ctrl+v) on the browser and voila!
They could be using some distributed web caching like akamai.
Cheers,
-b
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sr123
02-07 01:03 PM
I have been through this once. My company(a big one) lawyer said my position does not qualify for EB2. His main concern was salary was not enough. I got promoted to "Senior Software Engineer" and got into the required salary range. My labor and 140 were cleared. So my in my opinion salary range is also significant.
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pitha
04-25 06:55 PM
A good delaying tactic. In reality to implement such a proposal they might takes years to come up with a methadology and then to implement it. In the mean while all EB immigration bills can be kept on hold while the points system is being "evaluated"
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paskal
10-02 05:41 PM
i'm there starting late tomorrow night...we'll plan something....
will e mail or call you or something like that!
will e mail or call you or something like that!
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rockstart
03-19 02:43 PM
As per my understanding there is nothing much USCIS can do in terms of creating laws since that is what only Congress can do. Only thing that CIS can do is efficiently use the 140K visa numbers allocated. So the only issue for backlogged folks is how CIS uses the spill over numbers. Till 2007 these visa numbers went to EB3 but we still see that Eb3 is struck in 2001 levels. Where as just one year of giving it to EB2 moved them to 2006 and then brought back to 2004 levels. I feel the only help of EB3 is recapture of visa # or removal of country limits anything else will fall short of any help needed.
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Leo07
09-23 08:02 PM
We Can Blame All We Want After We Are Sure That We Have Done Everything We Possible Could....
Calllllllllllll............
Calllllllllllll............
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ras
12-16 10:51 PM
Yes you said it right. See if IV can come up with some provision to encourage those who have expressed to shell out only few dollars. It doesn't look good critisizing those who have expressed their geniune feelings.
The question here is not asking the Poster to donate more but rather tell him the provisions to contribute less as well.
No two individuals are at the same thinking level. so his thoughts are that he can contribute less frequently if allowed. So let him know how he can do that. There may be many in the same boat like him.
For the sake of generating more funds, let IV act like collection agency and look at the member as a customer/defaulter(those fence sitters). Collection Agencies make all sorts of efforts and provisions to collect money from these people. Finally they end up some how getting the money paid. There could be a payment installments based on the capability, lesser or higher amount, reminders etc. I am not sure if this anology is good for IV or not. The ultimate goal is to generate funds with the willingness from the members...
You gave perfect examples here. Let's take a close look.
If you think the atterney fee worth $10, you wouln't hire an atterney asking for $6k. Samething with the restraunt check. Samething with IV contribution. If you think $100 is too high, you don't pay it. But if you think it worth $10 you simply ask for it, like everybody will do. Imagine a car saleman responds to his potential buyer's request to a lower price of a car with insulting remarks, he'll loose this customer and many more.
And IV ALLOWED everyone ...? You went too far, pal.
The question here is not asking the Poster to donate more but rather tell him the provisions to contribute less as well.
No two individuals are at the same thinking level. so his thoughts are that he can contribute less frequently if allowed. So let him know how he can do that. There may be many in the same boat like him.
For the sake of generating more funds, let IV act like collection agency and look at the member as a customer/defaulter(those fence sitters). Collection Agencies make all sorts of efforts and provisions to collect money from these people. Finally they end up some how getting the money paid. There could be a payment installments based on the capability, lesser or higher amount, reminders etc. I am not sure if this anology is good for IV or not. The ultimate goal is to generate funds with the willingness from the members...
You gave perfect examples here. Let's take a close look.
If you think the atterney fee worth $10, you wouln't hire an atterney asking for $6k. Samething with the restraunt check. Samething with IV contribution. If you think $100 is too high, you don't pay it. But if you think it worth $10 you simply ask for it, like everybody will do. Imagine a car saleman responds to his potential buyer's request to a lower price of a car with insulting remarks, he'll loose this customer and many more.
And IV ALLOWED everyone ...? You went too far, pal.
chanduv23
05-29 02:02 PM
I would further say, what is the difference between you and anti-immigrants in this matter ? You are saying that certain class of people should be kept out of the job market and you have your reasons. Since you are probably US educated, you want those who are non-US educated out of competition. Do not give me the BS reason that those with non-US education are the only ones that fake their resume. As far as faking the resume goes, or bragging goes, its up to the individual. It could be anyone, including Presidents that fake resumes or pad it with embellishments.
The anti-immigrants are saying that they were born here so those who were not born here should be kept of out the job market to reduce competition (and spur wage inflation, which they would call fair wages, but its really wage inflation, the kind that drowned GM and Chrysler).
Would it not behoove you to say that the decision of who should be hired and who shouldn't be hired must be deferred to the employers and not the Government or any other special interest ? As an employer, are they not the most capable party here to make that decision and evaluate their options ? Shouldn't people who create wealth (employers, businesses) have the prerogative to decide who they want to hire to help them create wealth ?
Logiclife - I totally agree with your opinions.
Me and my wife both are professionals - in different fields - none from ivyleague - we decided not to force our kid into something but to allow her to carve out her own career through her interests. We do not aim for sky , but definitely have vision to grow and become successfulaand strive towards it.
From all those people who went to school with me - those ivyleagures are still in jobs - kinda secure jobs and they also secure their jobs - one of our C grade classmate who was average mediocre and just did a BA degree is now a very successful entrepreneur - he is big time into infrastructure development and also sponsers a team in IPL
While i
The anti-immigrants are saying that they were born here so those who were not born here should be kept of out the job market to reduce competition (and spur wage inflation, which they would call fair wages, but its really wage inflation, the kind that drowned GM and Chrysler).
Would it not behoove you to say that the decision of who should be hired and who shouldn't be hired must be deferred to the employers and not the Government or any other special interest ? As an employer, are they not the most capable party here to make that decision and evaluate their options ? Shouldn't people who create wealth (employers, businesses) have the prerogative to decide who they want to hire to help them create wealth ?
Logiclife - I totally agree with your opinions.
Me and my wife both are professionals - in different fields - none from ivyleague - we decided not to force our kid into something but to allow her to carve out her own career through her interests. We do not aim for sky , but definitely have vision to grow and become successfulaand strive towards it.
From all those people who went to school with me - those ivyleagures are still in jobs - kinda secure jobs and they also secure their jobs - one of our C grade classmate who was average mediocre and just did a BA degree is now a very successful entrepreneur - he is big time into infrastructure development and also sponsers a team in IPL
While i
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08-03 04:19 PM
Justaju jiski thi, usko to na paya humne..
Is bahane magar dekh li duniya humne.
(Song from Umrao Jaan)
After wandering through 12 US states in past 12 years, thats what accurately sums up my quest for GC. :)
This is not an Indian site. Kindly understands sensitivities of other users of this site.
Is bahane magar dekh li duniya humne.
(Song from Umrao Jaan)
After wandering through 12 US states in past 12 years, thats what accurately sums up my quest for GC. :)
This is not an Indian site. Kindly understands sensitivities of other users of this site.
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